I understand the the "original" house burned down in the 1950's is
that correct?
Rob
On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Nicole Price wrote:
OK - a further hypothesis.
Captain Henry Morgan, the privateer - I've always thought, and
discussed
with Neal, that our Thomas was somehow linked to him. Henry Morgan
has an
uncle who is named Thomas Morgan, who fought for the royalist cause in
England. AND OH MY GOD>>> THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!!!
My grandfather Carrier grew up in the house in Connecticut - the
one that
was built by Thomas himself. The house has passed to my uncle Paul,
who I
believe is still alive. It is said that the house, while being on the
National Historic Registry, has a rather large sub basement. I
have, for as
long as I have lived, heard stories about how the hidden sub
basement housed
pirates/buccaneers/privateers/whatever you want to call them in its
early
days because it was right on the CT river, and then later in the
1800's the
sub basement was a stop on the underground railroad. Wouldn't this
make
sense to hide privateers in your basement if your own family was a
privateer?
Avast me hearties, this makes sense to me. And the dates fit in just
perfectly to me when you consider that Hery Morgan was born in
1635, and had
an uncle Thomas, and uncle Edward.
ALSO, there is rumor that there is "Indian Blood" on that side of the
family, and I have done enough genealogy to know there is no NATIVE
american
blood in the family... but what if they really meant West Indian
blood??
Just a shot in the dark.
On Jan 17, 2008 12:50 PM, Neal Carrier <nfcarrier(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, I'll post my theory after reading the responses so far.
>
> SUPPOSITIONS:
>
> 1. I would suspect that Thomas ap Morgans 1600 birthdate would fit
> with
> Thomas's 1626 birth.
>
> 2. Due to the constant warfare between the Puritan & Pilgrim
> settlers and
> the indians to the north of the Mass. Bay colony I really doubt
> the theory
> of coming from Canada to the colonies. Also most of the immigrants to
> Canada
> in that time came from France. Just look at the tough time our
> army had
> crossing Maine to invade Canada during the Revolution.
>
> 3. I've recently re-read the first part of "Albions Seed" which
> examines
> the pathways of the migrations of the English to various parts of
> America.
> I
> was looking to see where my other various ancestors lived in
> England and
> where they ended up over here. This book states that most of the
> Puritans
> were concentrated in the eastern portion of England and they
> tended to
> migrate to the Boston/Salem area. Others who were from the western
> part of
> England tended to go to Conn. and western Mass.
> The origins of some of my ancestors seem to bear this out.
>
> Ingalls/Skirbeck, Johnson/Canterbury, Lovejoy/London,
> and many others ended up in the Salem area.
>
> Ball/WIltshire, Burt/Devonshire, were from western England and ended
> up in the Conn.
> & Springfield Mass. area in the 1630s.
>
> 4. Albions Seed also says that many of the original settlers from the
> great
> migration returned to England to fight in the civil war or to tend
> to old
> business on the old sod.
>
> 5. The lady who wrote the post is mostly involved with Welsh
> ancestors and
> I
> would doubt that not too many outside of the Carrier clan would make
> the Morgan/Carrier connection.
>
> 6. Carrier in old and somewhat current Enlish is a term used to
> define
> what we would call teamsters/truckers.
>
>
> SO, my theory, (drum roll please Bob)
>
> Thomas ap Morgan may be the father of our Thomas (born in Wales)
> and the family migrated to some unknown colony (Not the Mass Bay one)
> between 1626 and 1635 when Richard Morgan was
> born. This would coincide with the great migration. Either all of the
> family
> or just our Thomas returned to the England to get away from the
> indians or
> to fight in the civil
> war. As our Thomas was suppose to be tall/big? would make him fit our
> image of a current teamster. Maybe he was know as Thomas Morgan "the"
> carrier.
>
> I looked thru James Savages dictionary and didn't fine any mention
> of a
> Thomas or Richard Morgan while our Thomas and RIchard are
> included, which
> would lead me to believe that the Morgans went elsewhere.
>
> the end!
>
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