You're thinking of the Brainerd house (also in my family). The original
Carrier house has never burned down - I've had my close relatives living in
it until very recently.
On Jan 28, 2008 8:00 AM, Robert Avery <robert(a)classic-woodworking.com>
wrote:
I understand the the "original" house burned down in the
1950's is
that correct?
Rob
On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Nicole Price wrote:
> OK - a further hypothesis.
>
> Captain Henry Morgan, the privateer - I've always thought, and
> discussed
> with Neal, that our Thomas was somehow linked to him. Henry Morgan
> has an
> uncle who is named Thomas Morgan, who fought for the royalist cause in
> England. AND OH MY GOD>>> THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!!!
>
> My grandfather Carrier grew up in the house in Connecticut - the
> one that
> was built by Thomas himself. The house has passed to my uncle Paul,
> who I
> believe is still alive. It is said that the house, while being on the
> National Historic Registry, has a rather large sub basement. I
> have, for as
> long as I have lived, heard stories about how the hidden sub
> basement housed
> pirates/buccaneers/privateers/whatever you want to call them in its
> early
> days because it was right on the CT river, and then later in the
> 1800's the
> sub basement was a stop on the underground railroad. Wouldn't this
> make
> sense to hide privateers in your basement if your own family was a
> privateer?
>
> Avast me hearties, this makes sense to me. And the dates fit in just
> perfectly to me when you consider that Hery Morgan was born in
> 1635, and had
> an uncle Thomas, and uncle Edward.
>
> ALSO, there is rumor that there is "Indian Blood" on that side of the
> family, and I have done enough genealogy to know there is no NATIVE
> american
> blood in the family... but what if they really meant West Indian
> blood??
> Just a shot in the dark.
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 12:50 PM, Neal Carrier <nfcarrier(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I'll post my theory after reading the responses so far.
>>
>> SUPPOSITIONS:
>>
>> 1. I would suspect that Thomas ap Morgans 1600 birthdate would fit
>> with
>> Thomas's 1626 birth.
>>
>> 2. Due to the constant warfare between the Puritan & Pilgrim
>> settlers and
>> the indians to the north of the Mass. Bay colony I really doubt
>> the theory
>> of coming from Canada to the colonies. Also most of the immigrants to
>> Canada
>> in that time came from France. Just look at the tough time our
>> army had
>> crossing Maine to invade Canada during the Revolution.
>>
>> 3. I've recently re-read the first part of "Albions Seed" which
>> examines
>> the pathways of the migrations of the English to various parts of
>> America.
>> I
>> was looking to see where my other various ancestors lived in
>> England and
>> where they ended up over here. This book states that most of the
>> Puritans
>> were concentrated in the eastern portion of England and they
>> tended to
>> migrate to the Boston/Salem area. Others who were from the western
>> part of
>> England tended to go to Conn. and western Mass.
>> The origins of some of my ancestors seem to bear this out.
>>
>> Ingalls/Skirbeck, Johnson/Canterbury, Lovejoy/London,
>> and many others ended up in the Salem area.
>>
>> Ball/WIltshire, Burt/Devonshire, were from western England and ended
>> up in the Conn.
>> & Springfield Mass. area in the 1630s.
>>
>> 4. Albions Seed also says that many of the original settlers from the
>> great
>> migration returned to England to fight in the civil war or to tend
>> to old
>> business on the old sod.
>>
>> 5. The lady who wrote the post is mostly involved with Welsh
>> ancestors and
>> I
>> would doubt that not too many outside of the Carrier clan would make
>> the Morgan/Carrier connection.
>>
>> 6. Carrier in old and somewhat current Enlish is a term used to
>> define
>> what we would call teamsters/truckers.
>>
>>
>> SO, my theory, (drum roll please Bob)
>>
>> Thomas ap Morgan may be the father of our Thomas (born in Wales)
>> and the family migrated to some unknown colony (Not the Mass Bay one)
>> between 1626 and 1635 when Richard Morgan was
>> born. This would coincide with the great migration. Either all of the
>> family
>> or just our Thomas returned to the England to get away from the
>> indians or
>> to fight in the civil
>> war. As our Thomas was suppose to be tall/big? would make him fit our
>> image of a current teamster. Maybe he was know as Thomas Morgan "the"
>> carrier.
>>
>> I looked thru James Savages dictionary and didn't fine any mention
>> of a
>> Thomas or Richard Morgan while our Thomas and RIchard are
>> included, which
>> would lead me to believe that the Morgans went elsewhere.
>>
>> the end!
>>
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