True, but the records *are* only from London.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Neal Carrier <nfcarrier(a)gmail.com> wrote:
But it ain't Welsh.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Nicole Price <nicole.price(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Well, there are a surprising number of Thomas Carriers, and no baptism
> recorded for a Thomas Carrier or Thomas Morgan Carrier in 1626. HOWEVER,
> there is a recording for a Thomas Morgan born Jan 12 1626, son of Henry
at St.
> Katherine Coleman <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Katherine_Coleman> in
> London. There is no more information than that, so it's purely
> supposition...
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Neal Carrier <nfcarrier(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> So, is Thomas listed?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Nicole Price <nicole.price(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I was able to access it with my ancestry log in...
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Robert Smith
<rsmith13(a)nycap.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I believe we can see it ONLY if we subscrive to it...
>> >> I think the annual fee is something like $139 USD...
>> >>
>> >> Bob (Thomas - Richard - Amos - Amaziah - John M. - Daniel S. - George
H.
>> -
>> >> George L. - Joan P. Carrier) Smith
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Neal Carrier" <nfcarrier(a)gmail.com>
>> >> To: "Carrier Rootsweb list" <carrier(a)rootsweb.com>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:33 AM
>> >> Subject: [CARRIER] English Revolutionaries Revealed in Online Archive
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Can US
ancestry.com subscribers see this database? Sure hope so.
>> >>
>> >> English Revolutionaries Revealed in Online Archive
>> >>
>> >> from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter by Dick Eastman
>> >>
>> >> The following announcement was written by Ancestry.co.uk :
>> >>
>> >> Historic records launching online today for first time ever detail
>> >> 'key players' of the English Civil War – Ancestry.co.uk
>> >>
>> >> Earliest London Parish records online in existence – eight million in
>> total
>> >> Records detail those alive during key events in England’s history,
>> >> including the Civil War
>> >> Revolutionaries Oliver Cromwell, Thomas Fairfax and John Milton
detailed
>> >> online
>> >>
>> >> Ancestry.co.uk, in partnership with the City of London’s London
>> >> Metropolitan Archives, today launched online for the first time eight
>> >> million of London’s oldest surviving parish records, charting the
>> >> history of the city from the 16th century to modern times.
>> >>
>> >> The London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
>> >> contain vital records kept at more than 1,000 London parishes, and
>> >> include some of the few extant records of the English Civil War.
>> >>
>> >> Crucially, these records pre-date Civil Registration, the system
>> >> introduced by the Government in 1837 to record the ‘vital’ events of
>> >> its citizen’s lives, including births, marriages and deaths. The only
>> >> way to trace one of these key events before the 19th century is to
use
>> >> parish registers.
>> >>
>> >> Approximately 1.4 million records in the collection are of those who
>> >> lived during the English Civil War, accounting for about 30 per cent
>> >> of England’s population at the time.1Today, the estimated 33 million
>> >> Britons who have London heritage2 can start exploring their
>> >> revolutionary or royalist ancestors.
>> >>
>> >> The English Civil War was a series of armed conflicts and political
>> >> manoeuvrings between King Charles I and the English Parliament,
>> >> fuelled by Charles’ unpopular religious reforms in England and
>> >> Scotland and disregard for Parliament’s financial muscle.
>> >>
>> >> During the mid 17th century, Parliament was the Crown’s only means to
>> >> collect taxes and without it the King struggled for funds. When
>> >> Charles I called on Parliament to raise funds to suppress rebellious
>> >> Scots in 1640, the Parliamentarians tried to use their financial
>> >> influence to force through political reform and increase their own
>> >> power. Charles refused, leading to war in 1642.
>> >>
>> >> Eventually the Royalists were defeated by the Parliamentarians, but a
>> >> few radicals still feared Charles could return to the throne. This
led
>> >> the powerful parliamentarian New Model Army, under the command of
>> >> Colonel Thomas Pride, to arrest all MPs who were sympathetic to the
>> >> king. A Rump Parliament was established and Charles I was executed
for
>> >> treason. The commissioner at the trial, Oliver Cromwell, became Lord
>> >> Protector of England.
>> >>
>> >> Numerous prominent names from the Civil War feature in the
collection,
>> >> including:
>> >>
>> >> Oliver Cromwell – Cromwell served as a commander in the New Model
Army
>> >> and later supported the trial of Charles I, even signing his death
>> >> warrant. He became Protector of England until his death in 1658.
>> >> Cromwell’s marriage to Elizabeth Bourchier on August 13, 1620 is
>> >> listed in the St Giles Cripplegate Parish Registers
>> >> Thomas Fairfax – Fairfax was a parliamentary general and
>> >> commander-in-chief of the New Model Army, which was instrumental in
>> >> numerous victories against the Royalists. Unlike Cromwell, he refused
>> >> to condemn Charles I to death as he was more moderate in his
political
>> >> and religious views. His marriage to Anne Vere in Hackney on June 17,
>> >> 1637 features in the collection
>> >> Thomas Wentworth, 1st Earl of Strafford - Considered as one of the
>> >> most prominent figures in the period leading up to the Civil War,
>> >> Wentworth supported King Charles I and became one of his leading
>> >> advisors. However, the King never fully trusted him and accused
>> >> Wentworth of treasonously advising him, which eventually led to his
>> >> beheading on Tower Hill. His baptism can be found in the 1593 St
>> >> Dunstan in The West Parish Registers
>> >>
>> >> Other famous and notable names that feature in the collection include
>> >> William Blake, Charles Dickens, John Milton, Robert Peel and Samuel
>> >> Pepys.
>> >>
>> >> The majority of the parish registers date back to 1538 when Thomas
>> >> Cromwell, Henry VIII’s Vicar General, issued an order that each
parish
>> >> was to keep a register of each baptism, marriage and burial performed
>> >> there, however the collection also features a few much earlier
>> >> records. One of the transcripts that is included within the
collection
>> >> is dated 1274.
>> >>
>> >> Russell James from Ancestry.co.uk comments: “These records detail
the
>> >> existence of those living through the fascinating period of the
>> >> English Civil War, the political consequences of which can still be
>> >> felt today. The conflict instilled Parliament with genuine power for
>> >> the first time, while its factions developed into what have become
>> >> some of our modern political parties.
>> >>
>> >> “As official records were not kept by the government until Civil
>> >> Registration in 1837, these parish records are essential for tracing
>> >> anyone who was baptised, married or buried in London before the 19th
>> >> century.”
>> >>
>> >> Dr Deborah Jenkins, Assistant Director of the City of London’s
>> >> Department of Libraries, Archives and Guildhall Art Gallery,
comments:
>> >> “I am delighted that we are able to make these unique historical
>> >> records available online for the first time and fully name
searchable.
>> >>
>> >> "Our understanding of the development of London and the lives of
>> >> millions of Londoners will be greatly enhanced through online access
>> >> to this information.”
>> >>
>> >> The launch of the early parish records marks the completion of the
>> >> London parish registers, which began in September 2009 with the
launch
>> >> of the ‘modern’ records dating from the early 19th century to the
>> >> 1980s. A total of 18 million parish records are now online, dating
>> >> from 1538 to 1980.
>> >>
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