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Surnames: Diment, Carrier
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5538/mhH.2ACEB/355.2
Message Board Post:
Researcher who gave me the information in the original message I posted (Henry Carrier, born Lambeth) has now told me that the children mentioned are incorrect.
Carrier tree currently shows:
Henry Roland Carrier, born 1884, Lambeth, son of William H and Emma Carrier, married Mabel Diment 1907, Dartford, Kent (Mabel born 1884, Dartford, Kent, our relation). Not yet sure of any children. Anyone who does know - let us know!
Laura
Please IMMEDIATELY change my e-mail address to: _LSoloski(a)earthlink.net_
(mailto:LSoloski@earthlink.net) . This address you used will soon disappear.
Linda Carrier Soloski
Hello everyone,
My name is C.J.Cooper and I am here in Canada in Summerside,P.E.I.
My wife is a Carrier and the first on Prince Edward Island was a Stephen who
married a Musick around 1824 and another Carrier who married a Musick in
1830 was John Carrier. Now I do not know the parents of these Carriers or
even if they are related,but it is stated that they came across from Nova
Scotia., Now,my theory is,that these individuals are the offspring of Green
Carrier,son of John,son of Andrew,son of Thomas & Martha. Green married
Hannah Lewis in Huntington,New York and went to Annapolis ,N.S. around 1794
but I cannot confirm whether he returned to the states,to Prince Edward
Island,or anything. I have no info on him,his wife,or the names of his
children,but,as you can see,the time frame coincides with the Carriers
arriving on Prince Edward Island,so this is why I think that Stephen and
John Carier may be Green and Hannah's children. If anyone has any leads or
info,I would be so greatful as this has been a roadblock for a long time.
Hello again Neal,haven't been directly in touch,but have checked your
Carrier Homepage regularly. Keep up the good work.
C.J.Cooper
Does any of this sound familiar?????
washingtonpost.com From Superstition to Savagery
Women Accused of Witchcraft Face Violence in Rural India
By Rama Lakshmi
Special to The Washington Post
Monday, August 8, 2005;
PALANI, India -- At sundown, Pusanidevi Manjhi recalled, nine village men
stormed into her house shouting, "Witch, witch!" and dragged her out by
her hair as her six small children watched helplessly."This woman is a
witch!" the men announced to the villagers, said Manjhi, 36. She said they
tied her ankles together and locked her in a dark room."They beat me with
bamboo sticks and metal rods and tried to pull my nails out. 'You are a
witch, admit it,' they screamed at me again and again," Manjhi said,
tearfully recalling her four days of captivity in June."They accused me of
casting an evil spell on their paddy crop that was destroyed in a fire. I
begged them and told them I was not a witch," she said, showing wounds on
her legs, thighs, hips and shoulders one recent morning in this village in
the eastern Indian state of Jharkhand.After a police investigation, the
men who attacked Manjhi were arrested. An official said that the attack
was spurred by a powerful landowner who owned rice paddies in the village
and used local superstition to mask his attempts to maintain
control.Threats and charges of witchcraft occur in a number of Indian
states that have large tribal populations with traditional beliefs about
witches. Indian newspapers periodically publish reports about women who,
after being accused of being witches, have been beaten, had their heads
shaved or had strings of shoes hung around their necks. Some have been
killed.In a tribal society steeped in superstition, the spells of witches
often are blamed for stubborn illnesses, a stroke of bad luck, the drying
up of wells, crop failure or the inability to give birth to a son. But
social analysts and officials said that superstition and faith in
witchcraft often are a ploy for carrying out violence against
women."Superstition is only an excuse. Often a woman is branded a witch so
that you can throw her out of the village and grab her land, or to settle
scores, family rivalry, or because powerful men want to punish her for
spurning their sexual advances. Sometimes it is used to punish women who
question social norms," said Pooja Singhal Purwar, an official at the
Jharkhand social welfare department."Women from well-to-do homes in the
village are never branded witches," Purwar said. "It is always the
socially and economically vulnerable women who are targeted and
boycotted."Purwar said she sees an average of five women a month being
denounced as witches and tortured in rural Jharkhand. Her department has
drawn up a public information project to oppose the practice, providing
information at village fairs and conducting street performances and puppet
shows. Police at the local level have been alerted to track the cases of
women who are attacked, she said.While Manjhi was imprisoned by her
captors, her husband, a farmhand, sought help from the village elders, who
called a meeting to determine if Manjhi was a witch and summoned a witch
doctor for verification. But by then, word spread and the police
arrived.The nine men were charged under a Jharkhand state law that forbids
accusing people of being witches. One of them was Gahan Lal, the man whose
paddy had caught fire. Lal later confessed to torturing Manjhi."Gahan Lal
was a powerful landlord. There were fights all the time in the village
over land and wages," said Jayant Tirkey, the police officer investigating
the case. "When his paddy caught fire, he blamed [Manjhi] for casting an
evil spell. But that is merely an excuse. His real motive is to instill
fear among the poor."Tirkey said he thinks that village witch doctors are
to blame for superstitious practices, but added that witch doctors are not
arrested and tried because they are not directly involved in the
violence."I never name a witch. I only give villagers some clues to find
her," said Leena Oraon, who is known as a witch doctor in Aragate village
and who says she studies rice grains to ascertain the presence of a witch
in the village. "Today's doctors cannot cure ailments that are caused by a
witch's curse. That is why people come to me."In a case three years ago in
Lalganj village, an elderly woman, Baili Kashyap, was branded a witch for
supposedly causing sickness in the family of a relative. The relatives,
who allegedly were engaged in a land dispute with her, tied her to a tree
and slit her throat with a sickle while others in the village watched. Six
men are in prison for the murder."My mother-in-law was not a witch. They
were after our land. But the entire village just stood and watched the
murder," said Kashyap's daughter-in-law, Reena, 28. "They believed she was
a witch and deserved to die."According to a study by the Free Legal Aid
Committee, an advocacy group that works against witch-hunting, only 2
percent of people charged with witch-hunting are convicted in
court."People go scot-free because witnesses are hard to come by.
Villagers often approve of the torture meted out to these women," said
Girija Shankar Jaiswal, a lawyer who heads the organization. "They think
witch-hunting is a heroic act and that it will clean the society of
evil."Only two Indian states, Jharkhand and Bihar, have outlawed
witch-hunting. Last year, one of India's northeastern states, Tripura,
conducted a discussion in the legislative assembly about the need to ban
the practice of witch-hunting. After a day-long debate, the assembly
unanimously decided that killing of people for practicing witchcraft
should be prevented.However, members failed to reach a consensus on
whether witchcraft was a science or superstition.
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