Diana:
My thanks for the thoughtful, intelligent and insightful comments you add to the Carrico
List.
Just a note of caution to all of us. The double R in CARRICO is unique to the Portuguese
line, with some crossover to Spanish. CARICO, with its single R, is much more common in
Italian. The double R in Portuguese and Spanish can make a great difference in meaning and
pronunciation, as seen below from a visitor to South Amerca:
<<One positive is that I have finally begun to roll the letter 'r'. This is
essential in Spanish for anything that has a double 'r'. The
word 'pero' means 'but', yet the word 'perro' means
'dog'! The latter
one has to roll the 'r'. Even words with single 'r's are
pronounced
differently than in English, as we make the sound at the back of our
tongues whilst the Spanish pronounce it at the front.>>
The pronunciation rule is seen below from a different source:
<<R is rolled or flapped, as in Latin. Actually an initial r and any rr are rolled,
while any other r is flapped, to sound much like the d in English rudder. Of course, this
varies somewhat with dialect.>>
The definitions of the words, CARICO and CARRICO, are quite different. In Italian carico
means CARGO. In Portuguese carrico means MARSH PLANT or CANE and is derived from the
Latin, CAREX. There seems to be no definition of carrico in Italian, i.e., it simply is
not an Italian word.
We potentially have a wonderful puzzle shaping up here. It will be fun to figure out how
the DNA points to Italian ancestry while the surname points to Portuguese origins. The
only connection that seems to be offering a hint at the moment is the Turkish connection.
Both Italy and Portugal were overrun by Moorish invaders prior to the reconquest. Perhaps,
the blood of our ancestors and ourselves carries the markers of that period in history.
Tim
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Carrico <f.carrico(a)att.net>
To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 9:04 am
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] Another Look at Origins - ITALY
All:
The site below is quite interesting. "Carrico" showed only one site for the
surname - in Sicilia; however, "Carico" showed distribution in several
provinces - with the highest concentration in Puglia. There are Carico's in
other provinces along the west coast and in northern Italy. See map at
http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html?cognome=CARICO
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http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html?cognome=CARICO&t=cogn...
ov> &t=cognomi-prov.
Thanks Diana for this link.
Regards,
Fred Carrico
Colorado Springs
-----Original Message-----
From: carrico-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carrico-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:03 PM
To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] Another Look at Origins
There's a terrific web site giving the distribution of surnames (cognome) in
Italy:
http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html
Just enter the surname in the textbox and click the red arrow. Also try all
three versions of the map by choosing the little maps under "Cambia Mappa."
I'm not aware of anyone doing research on CARRICO in Italy, but of course
that
doesn't mean there isn't anyone doing it.
Diana
-----Original Message-----
From: carrico-bounces(a)rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Fred Carrico
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:27 AM
To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] Another Look at Origins
Diana:
Could you please tell us what your research shows regarding the
geographical
dispersion of Carrico families in Italy?...if you have that
information.
Are you aware of any researchers who have investigated the surname in
Italy?
>From looking at the DNA data (map) for J2a1b - which you linked
recently
-
it sure does look like Italy is a prime candidate as the "mother
country"
for our Carrico ancestors.
Thanks,
Fred Carrico
Colorado Springs, CO
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