Linda,
I only showed numbers in parentheses to distinguish between the different
Peters. Peter Carrico of Preston Co never used Jr, Sr, III or IV or
anything else after his name.
Homer Edwin Carrico mangled the information he shows for the Peter Jr line
by showing Peter of Preston Co as Joseph and Peter of Preston's son Joseph
as Albert Coleman Carrico who was Joseph's son and Peter's grandson.
I think the reason Homer placed the Preston Co Carricos in Peter Jr's family
was because the sons of Peter Sr by Margaret Gates were all too young to
have been the father of Joseph Carrico born about 1744 whom Homer shows in
error as the ancestor of the Preston Co Carricos.
I'm not actively researching the Carrico family or the different branches.
My only concern at this time is to attempt to determine the names of the
parents of my ancestor, Monica (Carrico) Goff. She is my 50 year old
brickwall.
Monica may or may not have been a sister of Peter Carrico of Preston but
they both ended up in the same location, indicating a close relationship
between them. Coincidentally, Monica and Peter both died the same year.
Monica named her first son James Carrico Goff suggesting her father may have
been a James Carrico.
Monica's birthdate is unknown but has been estimated as occurring during
1740-45. Peter Carrico of Preston was probably born in the late 1740's or
early 1750's. If Monica was born as early as 1740 and Peter Carrico Jr was
born in 1722, he would have been 18 at her birth (a little young) but if
Peter Jr was born as late as 1733, he would have been too young to have been
her father.
All I have to go on is conjecture regarding my Carrico line. There just
doesn't seem to be any proof available either way at this time but I keep
hoping some long hidden document will come to light and solve my mystery.
Roy Lockhart
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Boorom" <lboorom(a)fuse.net>
To: <carrico(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
Roy,
I just looked again at what Homer had. First, I don't think he assigned
numbers
to them, that seems
to be we, the current researchers assigning the numbers, but somehow
it's
starting to get a bit
confusing (or is it just me?)
I "think" what Homer was trying to indicate is that he thought Peter Jr.
b. 1722 ended up in Preston
Co., VA, or at least that descendants did. He kinda has the whole
thing
mangled, so it's hard to
tell what he was trying to say.
The Peter Jr. who sold land to Peter Sr in 1764 has always tended to
confuse me
anyway. I had listed
under Peter Sr. & Ann Gates a son b. bef. 1733. This was based on
the Jun
1749 Charles Co. court
record Phil Goff located which states "Peter Carrico on his
petition to
the Court here has his son
set levy free." Presuming the son was at least 16, I came up
with the 1733
date. As well, we know
that Ann Gates was dead by 1734 when Peter petitioned to have
Maidstone
resurveyed. It's hard to
tell from the petition when Peter married Ann. Peter's petition
states
that Ann petitioned the court
to have Maidstone resurveyed in 1720 and it was resurveyed in Nov.
1721
and it was after that when
she "intermarried" with Peter Carrico. It was certainly
before 1730 when
Peter was leasing portions
of Maidstone to Abel Carrico & George Keeth. Homer could be right
with the
estimate of 1722, but I
also think it could have been as late as 1733 at which time Ann Gates
would have been 43 years old.
I know the question has come up whether or not Ann Gates could have
married before
her marriage to
Peter. I've often considered that locating her 1720 petition
might tell us
if she was still single
or then a widow. I've not found it in any indexes, so it would
mean paying
Michael Hiatt the hourly
fee to try to search for the record. I've added that to my
"to do" list!
Anyway, today I changed my entry from "son Carrico" to Peter Carrico.The
only thing for certain is
that he was still living in 1769 when he was in Provincial Court with
John
Rogers & Samuel Hanson
involving a Recovery Deed for Maidstone.
Also this morning I've been trying to get some of the information you've
sent regarding the Preston
Co. Carrico's online. To go with some of that info. I was just
looking
again at ancestry's images
from "U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914". There
are 2 entires
of interest. I'm going to
try to get both online, but it may not be until later this afternoon.
My
son is on his way here so
that we can drop his car off for an oil change & then we're
picking up my
daughter so that we all
can go to lunch. I guess my treat :-) I haven't even dressed yet,
so I
better get moving.
Meanwhile, I think brainstorming these Peter's might help sort the
information
out.
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Lockhart" <royboy(a)wirefire.com>
To: <carrico(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
> Diana & Linda,
>
> Peter Carrico Jr (III) was supposedly born about 1722 while Peter
Carrico
> (IV) of Preston Co WV (present day location) was still living in
1815
when
> Peter Jr would have been about 93 years old.
>
> Also, Peter (IV) of Preston fathered children during the 1770's-1790's
> (apparently by two wives) when Peter Jr (III) would have been in his
> 50's-70's, possible but probably not likely. Is there any proof (other
than
> Homer Edwin Carrico's assumption) that Peter (IV) of
Preston was the
son of
> Peter Jr (III)?
>
> Roy Lockhart
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM(a)dgmweb.net>
> To: <carrico(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
>
>
>> Linda,
>>
>> Homer is only one of the sources I cite,
>>
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIII-_.shtml
>>
>> and I say in the citation itself that his work contains errors. I
plainly
>> disagree with him about Alexander being his son, and I grant
only that
> Joseph C.
>> CARRICO is "said to be" his son. I obviously disagree with those who
> assert
>> that Peter III's wife was Elizabeth COLEMAN. About the only thing on
the
> page I
>> accept is that Peter III is the son of Peter II. It is definitely not
the
> case
>> that "what I have" is "what Homer Edwin Carrico published with
obvious
> error's
>> (sic)."
>>
>> In my opinion, if you don't *know* two records pertain to the same
person,
> you
>> should not assume they do. Lumping two people into one is, to me, a
> bigger
>> error than not doing so because lumping them obscures the possible
> existence of
>> the other person. Surely the most frequent mistake in genealogy has to
be
>> assuming two people with the same name are the same person.
>>
>> In comparing Peter III with Peter "IV,"
>>
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIV-_.shtml
>> I find it *probable* that Peter III and IV are different men, based on
> timing.
>>
>> If Peter III was born ca. 1722, as alleged, he would likely have
married
a
> woman
>> born ca. 1726, and they would likely have married ca. 1745. The
average
> maximum
>> age for a woman birthing her last child is 43, so we wouldn't expect
her
> to bear
>> any children after ca. 1769.
>>
>> The 1790 census shows Peter IV has just two sons, both born after 1774,
> meaning
>> his wife had a son at least as late as 1776 (unless you want to assert
> twins,
>> but we're talking here about what's most probable, not what's least
> probable).
>> The fact that they have *no* sons born before 1774 (no sons over the
age
> of 15)
>> suggests that they were not married much before 1770, but even if we
grant
> that
>> their three daughters were all born before the two sons, it only puts
> their
>> marriage back a decade, at most.
>>
>> The above timing scenario is not *proof* that they're different men
> because not
>> everyone is average and Peter III could have married again to a younger
> women.
>> Still, the extended time frame leans in the direction of two men,
rather
> than
>> one, so I consider treating them as two men to be the conservative
view.
>>
>> As for Peter of Preston Co., WV, his first appearance in the record
could
> be the
>> one in WV; and because it could be, I've never made an assumption that
> he's any
>> of the Peter CARRICOs appearing in the records of Maryland. It's
entirely
>> possible that, if no paper documentation is ever found, we
may never
know
> is he
>> is. The one thing we do know for certain is that DNA test results at
> least
>> prove he's a member of this CARRICO family.
>>
>> As for the potential project member, his line led to the Joseph who
> married
>> Susan and moved to Washington Co., KY, so he's out of the running. In
> fact, I'm
>> wondering, now...
>>
>> If we don't have any children firmly attached to Peter III, how can we
> make a
>> solid paper trail to him a criterion for being given the free test? I
get
> the
>> dodo award here for allowing our donor to make the offer before
realizing
> its
>> conditions could not be met. On the other hand, maybe the offer will
give
>> someone the incentive to work on Peter III and make the
connection to
get
> the
>> free test!
>>
>> Diana
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: carrico-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
>> > [mailto:carrico-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:23 PM
>> > To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
>> > Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
>> >
>> > Diana,
>> >
>> > I think what you have for Peter III is what Homer Edwin
>> > Carrico published with obvious error's. I
>> > think Homer was attempting to refer to the Peter JR who sold
>> > Maidstone to Peter SR in 1764, as such,
>> > making Peter JR a son of the marriage of Peter II to Ann
>> > Gates who later settled in Preston Co., WV.
>> > He gives Peter 2 sons, Joseph b. 1744 & Alexander b. 1750 who
>> > d. 1840 in IN.
>> >
>> > For son Joseph, (per Homer), he's got some obv. error's in
>> > dates, but he seems to be referring to
>> > the Preston Co. branch of Carrico's.
>> >
>> > Alexander is another story, Homer's info. was obtained from
>> > Maude Carrico Russell's info. who had
>> > the Alexander of Mass. & Alexander who married Mary Sedgwick
>> > as the same man. It has been proven
>> > that they are 2 different Alexander's. As to why Homer listed
>> > him as son of this Peter presumably
>> > was because Peter had resided in Montgomery Co., in 1790 &
>> > that is where Alexander married Mary
>> > Sedgwick in 1800. Since there is no 1800 census for VA(WV),
>> > Homer was not aware that Peter was by
>> > that time in Monongalia VA. I think Homer just didn't know
>> > what to do with Alexander(s)!
>> >
>> > Besides Peter in Preston WV, you also have listed a Peter IV
>> > in Montgomery Co., MD in 1790. So, you
>> > have 3 Peter's, where Homer has them combined into 1. I don't
>> > think we're talking 3 different men
>> > here as you show, but remain uncertain if Peter of Preston
>> > WV is the same Peter prob. s/o of Ann
>> > Gates & Peter Carrico II.
>> >
>> > I'd be curious to know how the potential descendant claims to
>> > descend from Peter? Is it via the
>> > Preston Co. line?
>> >
>> > BTW, regarding the Preston Co., line, Roy Lockhart sent me a
>> > nice big package of documents recently
>> > which I keep hoping to find time to scan & get online. These
>> > documents pretty much indicate that
>> > Peter of Preston had 3 sons, besides Joseph b. ca 1792 (or
>> > earlier), also John Conley Carrico &
>> > James Carrico. AND, another interesting tidbit:
>> >
>> > Ancestry has "U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914 "
>> > where it shows that Joseph Carico
>> > enlisted May 9 1814 in Morgantown VA (county seat of current
>> > Monongalia WV, he was then age 30
>> > (raising questions as the ca 1792 birthdate) and states that
>> > he was born in CHARLES CO. MD!!!!
>> > Although this document raises some additional questions, it
>> > does seem to confirm that the Preston
>> > Co. branch had ties to Charles Co., MD.
>> >
>> > I've some running I need to do this afternoon, but will see
>> > if I can get to those scans later today
>> > or tomorrow.
>> >
>> > Linda
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM(a)dgmweb.net>
>> > To: <CARRICO(a)rootsweb.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:33 PM
>> > Subject: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
>> >
>> >
>> > > Now that I've broadcast this donor's offer to fund a
>> > patrilineal descendant of
>> > > Peter CARRICO III, I just realized that what I have on the
>> > genealogy of his
>> > > descendants is a mess -- just contradictory information
>> > from secondary sources.
>> > > I haven't done any original research on him, except for
>> > gathering census records
>> > > of his alleged descendants further down the line.
>> > >
>> > > Someone with a potential connection to Peter III has
>> > already responded to the
>> > > testing offer, and I realize I don't have what I need to
>> > verify it. I'm
>> > > somewhere between embarrassed and panicked. This is what I
>> > have right now on
>> > > Peter (and, yes, it's pathetic):
>> > >
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIII-_.shtml
>> > >
>> > > Any help appreciated. We may have at our fingertips a
>> > chance to test this line,
>> > > so it's well worth contributing what you have (or can
>> > find). Please. I can't
>> > > ask a donor to fund a line without a verified paper trail.
>> > >
>> > > Diana
>> > >
>> > >
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