Tim,
Census records indicate Peter Carrico of Preston Co WV was married at least
twice. His last wife was named Catharine as she survived him.
The death record of Peter's daughter Verlinda Wotring (born 1777) gives her
mother's name as Catharine and the birth record of Peter's daughter Ann
Eliza (1798) also gives her mother's name as Catharine while the death
record of Peter's son Joseph who was born in between Verlinda and Ann Eliza
gives his mother's name as Elizabeth.
So did Peter have two wives named Catharine and a wife named Elizabeth in
between or is at least one of the death records in error? More food for
thought.
Roy Lockhart
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Weaver, Owner" <wtcweaver(a)aol.com>
To: <carrico(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
Roy and Others:
This gets curiouser and curiouser, as they say. I am not sure where the
birth date
of a Peter III, aka Peter Jr., has ever been established. I would
love to see it because we have proof that a Peter Carrico and his wife
Katherine were the parents of Joseph (Joseph's death certificate establishes
his father as Peter), and Eliz. (baptized at the Aurora Lutheran Church).
I'm not sure of other children of Peter and Katherine, but these two
children I am sure about.? This we know. Peter Carrico Jr. received tobacco
in exchange for land in Maryland, signed the Oath in Maryland and shows up
in Commander French's regiment during the Revolutionary War. A Peter Carrico
also appears in the 1790 census living in Montgomery Co. MD. Nex,t a Peter
shows up on the tax rolls in Mon. County, VA (now Preston Co. WV). These are
established facts. However, I have noted that no second Peter appears in any
of these records, save Sr. So there are not two Peters in the list of
signatories to the Oat!
h, not two Peters in the Revolutionary War Records, not two
contemporaneous Peters
in Montgomery County, MD, or elsewhere in MD, nor
Monogalia County, VA (WV). If the birth date of 1722 is accurate, and no
other Peter ever turns up, I would have to conclude that our Peter Jr. was
one helluva guy! He would have been siring children in his 90s and fighting
in the Revolution in his 50s. I love it!
Hope this helps.
Tim Carrico Weaver
Descendant of Peter Carrico (whoever that might be).
W. Timothy Weaver
Owner
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Lockhart &lt;royboy(a)wirefire.com&gt;
To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
Diana & Linda, Peter Carrico Jr (III) was supposedly born about
1722
while Peter Carrico (IV) of Preston Co WV (present day location) was
still living in 1815 when Peter Jr would have been about 93 years old.
Also, Peter (IV) of Preston fathered children during the 1770's-1790's
(apparently by two wives) when Peter Jr (III) would have been in his
50's-70's, possible but probably not likely. Is there any proof (other than
Homer Edwin Carrico's assumption) that Peter (IV) of Preston was the son of
Peter Jr (III)? Roy Lockhart ----- Original Message ----- From:
"Diana Gale Matthiesen" &lt;DianaGM(a)dgmweb.net&gt; To:
&lt;carrico(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:30 PM Subject:
Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III? > Linda, > > Homer
is only one of the sources I cite, >
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIII-_.shtml > > and
I say in the citation itself that his work contains errors. I plainly &g!
t; disagree with him about Alexander being his son, and I grant only that
Joseph
C. > CARRICO is "said to be" his son. I obviously disagree with
those who assert > that Peter III's wife was Elizabeth COLEMAN. About
the only thing on the page I > accept is that Peter III is the son of
Peter II. It is definitely not the case > that "what I have" is
"what
Homer Edwin Carrico published with obvious error's > (sic)." >
> In my opinion, if you don't *know* two records pertain to the same
person, you > should not assume they do. Lumping two people into one
is, to me, a bigger > error than not doing so because lumping them
obscures the possible existence of > the other person. Surely the most
frequent mistake in genealogy has to be > assuming two people with the
same name are the same person. > > In comparing Peter III with Peter
"IV," >
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIV-_.shtml
>
I find it *p!
robable* that Peter III and IV are different men, based on timing. &
gt; > If Peter III was born ca. 1722, as alleged, he would likely have
married a woman > born ca. 1726, and they would likely have married ca.
1745. The average maximum > age for a woman birthing her last child is
43, so we wouldn't expect her to bear > any children after ca. 1769.
> > The 1790 census shows Peter IV has just two sons, both born after
1774, meaning > his wife had a son at least as late as 1776 (unless you
want to assert twins, > but we're talking here about what's most
probable, not what's least probable). > The fact that they have *no*
sons born before 1774 (no sons over the age of 15) > suggests that they
were not married much before 1770, but even if we grant that > their
three daughters were all born before the two sons, it only puts their >
marriage back a decade, at most. > > The above timing scenario is
not *proof* that they're different men because not > everyone is
average and Pet!
er III could have married again to a younger women. > Still, the
extended
time frame leans in the direction of two men, rather than >
one, so I consider treating them as two men to be the conservative view.
> > As for Peter of Preston Co., WV, his first appearance in the
record could be the > one in WV; and because it could be, I've never
made an assumption that he's any > of the Peter CARRICOs appearing in
the records of Maryland. It's entirely > possible that, if no paper
documentation is ever found, we may never know is he > is. The one
thing we do know for certain is that DNA test results at least > prove
he's a member of this CARRICO family. > > As for the potential
project member, his line led to the Joseph who married > Susan and
moved to Washington Co., KY, so he's out of the running. In fact, I'm
> wondering, now... > > If we don't have any children firmly
attached to Peter III, how can we make!
a > solid paper trail to him a criterion for being given the free
test? I get the > dodo award here for allowing our donor to make
the
offer before realizing its > conditions could not be met. On the
other hand, maybe the offer will give > someone the incentive to work on
Peter III and make the connection to get the > free test! > >
Diana > > > -----Original Message----- > > From:
carrico-bounces(a)rootsweb.com > >
[mailto:carrico-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom > >
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:23 PM > > To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III? > >
>
> Diana, > > > > I think what you have for Peter III
is
what Homer Edwin > > Carrico published with obvious error's. I
>
> think Homer was attempting to refer to the Peter JR who sold > >
Maidstone to Peter SR in 1764, as such, > > making Peter JR a son of
the marriage of Peter II to Ann > > Gates who l!
ater settled in Preston Co., WV. > > He gives Peter 2 sons, Joseph
b. 1744 & Alexander b. 1750 who > > d. 1840 in IN. >
> >
> For son Joseph, (per Homer), he's got some obv. error's in >
>
dates, but he seems to be referring to > > the Preston Co. branch of
Carrico's. > > > > Alexander is another story,
Homer's info.
was obtained from > > Maude Carrico Russell's info. who had >
> the Alexander of Mass. & Alexander who married Mary Sedgwick >
>
as the same man. It has been proven > > that they are 2 different
Alexander's. As to why Homer listed > > him as son of this Peter
presumably > > was because Peter had resided in Montgomery Co., in
1790 & > > that is where Alexander married Mary > >
Sedgwick
in 1800. Since there is no 1800 census for VA(WV), > > Homer was not
aware that Peter was by > > that time in Monongalia VA. I think Homer
just didn't know!
> > what to do with Alexander(s)! > > > >
Beside
s Peter in Preston WV, you also have listed a Peter IV > > in
Montgomery Co., MD in 1790. So, you > > have 3 Peter's, where
Homer
has them combined into 1. I don't > > think we're talking 3
different
men > > here as you show, but remain uncertain if Peter of Preston
> > WV is the same Peter prob. s/o of Ann > > Gates &
Peter
Carrico II. > > > > I'd be curious to know how the
potential
descendant claims to > > descend from Peter? Is it via the >
>
Preston Co. line? > > > > BTW, regarding the Preston Co.,
line, Roy Lockhart sent me a > > nice big package of documents
recently > > which I keep hoping to find time to scan & get online.
These > > documents pretty much indicate that > > Peter of
Preston had 3 sons, besides Joseph b. ca 1792 (or > > earlier), also
John Conley Carrico & > > James Carrico. AND, another interesting
tidbit: > > > >!
; Ancestry has "U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914 " >
> where it shows that Joseph Carico > > enlisted May 9 1814
in
Morgantown VA (county seat of current > > Monongalia WV, he was then
age 30 > > (raising questions as the ca 1792 birthdate) and states
that > > he was born in CHARLES CO. MD!!!! > > Although
this
document raises some additional questions, it > > does seem to
confirm that the Preston > > Co. branch had ties to Charles Co., MD.
> > > > I've some running I need to do this afternoon,
but will
see > > if I can get to those scans later today > > or
tomorrow. > > > > Linda > > >
> > > -----
Original Message ----- > > From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen"
&lt;DianaGM(a)dgmweb.net&gt; > > To:
&lt;CARRICO(a)rootsweb.com&gt; >
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:33 PM > > Subject: [CARRICO]
desc/o Peter CARRICO III? > &g!
t; > > > > > Now that I've broadcast this
donor's off
er to fund a > > patrilineal descendant of > > >
Peter
CARRICO III, I just realized that what I have on the > >
genealogy of
his > > > descendants is a mess -- just contradictory information
> > from secondary sources. > > > I haven't done
any
original research on him, except for > > gathering census records
> > > of his alleged descendants further down the line. >
>
> > > > Someone with a potential connection to Peter III has
> > already responded to the > > > testing offer, and
I
realize I don't have what I need to > > verify it. I'm >
>
> somewhere between embarrassed and panicked. This is what I > >
have right now on > > > Peter (and, yes, it's pathetic):
>
> >
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIII-_.shtml >
> > > > > Any help appreciated. We may have at our
fingertips a > > chance!
to test this line, > > > so it's well worth contributing what
you have (or can > > find). Please. I can't > >
> ask a
donor to fund a line without a verified paper trail. > > >
>
> > Diana > > > > > > >
>
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