Tim,
In the 1810 census of Monongalia Co VA, Peter Carrico (of Preston Co, not
Peter Jr born c1722) is listed as over age 45 (born before 1765) with a
female age 26-44 (born during 1765-1784), one male 10-15 and two females
under 10.
If the female 26-45 is Peter's wife and she was marked in the correct age
group, she would be too young to have been the mother of Peter's children
that were born in the 1770's. This indicates that Peter of Preston Co was
married more than once with his last wife considerably younger than him and
may explain why his wife was listed as Elizabeth in one Preston Co death
record and as Catharine in another Preston Co death record and as Catarina
in a Preston Co Lutheran church birth record (which was written in German).
Roy Lockhart
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Weaver, Owner" <wtcweaver(a)aol.com>
To: <carrico(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
Roy:
Good questions all. The spelling of Catharine, aka, Katherine, is shown in
the
Aurora Church records at Katerina and Peter as Petrus. I think that had
to more with the Lutherans than anything else. I would be very surprised to
learn that Peter Jr. was married twice but it may be. I do not access to my
records so that is why I really have to be content with memory, which ain't
perfect anymore.
Tim
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Lockhart &lt;royboy(a)wirefire.com&gt;
To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
Tim, Census records indicate Peter Carrico of Preston Co WV was
married at
least twice. His last wife was named Catharine as she survived
him. The death record of Peter's daughter Verlinda Wotring (born 1777)
gives her mother's name as Catharine and the birth record of Peter's
daughter Ann Eliza (1798) also gives her mother's name as Catharine while
the death record of Peter's son Joseph who was born in between Verlinda and
Ann Eliza gives his mother's name as Elizabeth. So did Peter have two
wives named Catharine and a wife named Elizabeth in between or is at least
one of the death records in error? More food for thought. Roy
art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Weaver, Owner"
&lt;wtcweaver(a)aol.com&gt; To: &lt;carrico(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Sent:
Saturday,
March 28, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III?
> Roy and Others: > > > > This gets curiouser and
curiouser, as they say. I am not s!
ure where the birth date of a Peter III, aka Peter Jr., has ever been
established. I would love to see it because we have proof that a Peter
Carrico and his wife Katherine were the parents of Joseph (Joseph's death
certificate establishes his father as Peter), and Eliz. (baptized at the
Aurora Lutheran Church). I'm not sure of other children of Peter and
Katherine, but these two children I am sure about.? This we know. Peter
Carrico Jr. received tobacco in exchange for land in Maryland, signed the
Oath in Maryland and shows up in Commander French's regiment during the
Revolutionary War. A Peter Carrico also appears in the 1790 census living
in Montgomery Co. MD. Nex,t a Peter shows up on the tax rolls in Mon.
County, VA (now Preston Co. WV). These are established facts. However, I
have noted that no second Peter appears in any of these records, save Sr.
So there are not two Peters in the list of signatories to the Oat! >
> h, not two Peters in the Revo!
lutionary War Records, not two contemporaneous Peters in Montgomery C
ounty, MD, or elsewhere in MD, nor Monogalia County, VA (WV). If the
birth date of
1722 is accurate, and no other Peter ever turns up, I would
have to conclude that our Peter Jr. was one helluva guy! He would have been
siring children in his 90s and fighting in the Revolution in his 50s. I
love it! > > > > Hope this helps. > >
> >
Tim Carrico Weaver > > Descendant of Peter Carrico (whoever that
might be). > > > > > > > >
> > >
W. Timothy Weaver > > Owner > > Market Street Inn
>
> 22 Market Street > > Greenleaf Inn > > 141 State
Street
> > Newburyport, MA 01950 > > t 978-465-5816 >
> c
978-270-3847 > > f 978-463-8640 > > wtcweaver(a)aol.com
>
>
www.furnished-rentals.com > >
www.greenleafinnnewburyport.com
> > > > > > > -----Original
Message----- >
> From: Roy Lo!
ckhart &lt;royboy(a)wirefire.com&gt; > > To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
> > Sent: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:32 am > > Subject: Re:
[CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III? > > > > >
Diana
& Linda, Peter Carrico Jr (III) was supposedly born about 1722 while
Peter Carrico (IV) of Preston Co WV (present day location) was still
living in 1815 when Peter Jr would have been about 93 years old. Also,
Peter (IV) of Preston fathered children during the 1770's-1790's
(apparently by two wives) when Peter Jr (III) would have been in his
50's-70's, possible but probably not likely. Is there any proof (other than
Homer Edwin Carrico's assumption) that Peter (IV) of Preston was the son of
Peter Jr (III)? Roy Lockhart ----- Original Message ----- From:
"Diana Gale Matthiesen" &lt;DianaGM(a)dgmweb.net&gt; To:
&lt;carrico(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:30 PM Subject:
Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III? > Linda!
, > > Homer is only one of the sources I cite, > http://
dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIII-_.shtml > > and I
say
in the citation itself that his work contains errors. I plainly &g!
> > t; disagree with him about Alexander being his son, and I grant
only that Joseph C. > CARRICO is "said to be" his son. I obviously
disagree with those who assert > that Peter III's wife was Elizabeth
COLEMAN. About the only thing on the page I > accept is that Peter
III is the son of Peter II. It is definitely not the case > that
"what I have" is "what Homer Edwin Carrico published with obvious
error's
> (sic)." > > In my opinion, if you don't *know* two
records
pertain to the same person, you > should not assume they do. Lumping
two people into one is, to me, a bigger > error than not doing so
because lumping them obscures the possible existence of > the other
person. Surely the most frequent mistake in genealogy has to be >
assuming two people with the !
same name are the same person. > > In comparing Peter III with
Peter "IV," >
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIV-_.shtml > I find it
*p! > > robable* that Peter III and IV are different men, based on
timing. & > > > gt; > If Peter III was born ca. 1722,
as
alleged, he would likely have married a woman > born ca. 1726, and
they would likely have married ca. 1745. The average maximum > age
for a woman birthing her last child is 43, so we wouldn't expect her to
bear > any children after ca. 1769. > > The 1790 census shows
Peter IV has just two sons, both born after 1774, meaning > his wife
had a son at least as late as 1776 (unless you want to assert twins, >
but we're talking here about what's most probable, not what's least
probable). > The fact that they have *no* sons born before 1774 (no
sons over the age of 15) > suggests that they were not married much
before!
1770, but even if we grant that > their three daughters were al
l born before the two sons, it only puts their > marriage back a
decade,
at most. > > The above timing scenario is not *proof* that
they're different men because not > everyone is average and Pet! >
> er III could have married again to a younger women. > Still, the
extended time frame leans in the direction of two men, rather than >
one, so I consider treating them as two men to be the conservative view.
> > As for Peter of Preston Co., WV, his first appearance in the
record could be the > one in WV; and because it could be, I've never
made an assumption that he's any > of the Peter CARRICOs appearing in
the records of Maryland. It's entirely > possible that, if no paper
documentation is ever found, we may never know is he > is. The one
thing we do know for certain is that DNA test results at least > prove
he's a member of this CARRICO family. > > As for the potential
project member, h!
is line led to the Joseph who married > Susan and moved to
Washington
Co., KY, so he's out of the running. In fact, I'm >
wondering, now... > > If we don't have any children firmly attached
to Peter III, how can we make! > > a > solid paper trail to
him a criterion for being given the free > > > test? I get
the > dodo award here for allowing our donor to make the offer before
realizing its > conditions could not be met. On the other hand, maybe
the offer will give > someone the incentive to work on Peter III and
make the connection to get the > free test! > > Diana >
> > -----Original Message----- > > From:
carrico-bounces(a)rootsweb.com > >
[mailto:carrico-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Boorom > >
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:23 PM > > To: carrico(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [CARRICO] desc/o Peter CARRICO III? > >
>
&g!
t; Diana, > > > > I think what you have for Peter III is
what Homer Edwin > > Carrico published with obvious error's. I
> > think Homer was attempting to refer to the Peter JR who sold
> > Maidstone to Peter SR in 1764, as such, > > making
Peter
JR a son of the marriage of Peter II to Ann > > Gates who l! >
> ater settled in Preston Co., WV. > > He gives Peter 2 sons,
Joseph b. 1744 & Alexander b. 1750 who > > d. 1840 in IN. >
>
> > For son Joseph, (per Homer), he's got some obv. error's in
>
> dates, but he seems to be referring to > > the Preston Co.
branch of Carrico's. > > > > Alexander is another
story,
Homer's info. was obtained from > > Maude Carrico Russell's info.
who had > > the Alexander of Mass. & Alexander who married Mary
Sedgwick > > as the same man. It has been proven > > that
they are 2 different Alexander's. As to why Homer listed > > him as
son of this Peter presuma!
bly > > was because Peter had resided in Montgomery Co., in 1790
& > > that is where Alexander married Mary > >
Sedgwick in
1800. Since there is no 1800 census for VA(WV), > > Homer was not
aware that Peter was by > > that time in Monongalia VA. I think Homer
just didn't know! > > > > what to do with
Alexander(s)!
> > > > Beside > > > s Peter in
Preston WV, you
also have listed a Peter IV > > in Montgomery Co., MD in 1790. So,
you > > have 3 Peter's, where Homer has them combined into 1. I
don't > > think we're talking 3 different men > >
here as you
show, but remain uncertain if Peter of Preston > > WV is the same
Peter prob. s/o of Ann > > Gates & Peter Carrico II. >
>
> > I'd be curious to know how the potential descendant claims to
> > descend from Peter? Is it via the > > Preston Co. line?
> > > > B!
TW, regarding the Preston Co., line, Roy Lockhart sent me a > >
; nice big package of documents recently > > which I keep hoping
to
find time to scan & get online. These > > documents pretty much
indicate that > > Peter of Preston had 3 sons, besides Joseph b. ca
1792 (or > > earlier), also John Conley Carrico & > >
James
Carrico. AND, another interesting tidbit: > > > >! >
>
; Ancestry has "U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914 " >
>
where it shows that Joseph Carico > > enlisted May 9 1814 in
Morgantown VA (county seat of current > > Monongalia WV, he was then
age 30 > > (raising questions as the ca 1792 birthdate) and states
that > > he was born in CHARLES CO. MD!!!! > > Although
this
document raises some additional questions, it > > does seem to
confirm that the Preston > > Co. branch had ties to Charles Co., MD.
> > > > I've some running I need to do this afternoon,
but will
see > >!
; if I can get to those scans later today > > or tomorrow. >
> > > Linda > > > > >
> ----- Original
Message ----- > > From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen"
&lt;DianaGM(a)dgmweb.net&gt; > > To:
&lt;CARRICO(a)rootsweb.com&gt; >
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:33 PM > > Subject: [CARRICO]
desc/o Peter CARRICO III? > &g! > > t; > >
> >
> Now that I've broadcast this donor's off > > > er
to fund a
> > patrilineal descendant of > > > Peter CARRICO
III, I
just realized that what I have on the > > genealogy of his >
> > descendants is a mess -- just contradictory information >
>
from secondary sources. > > > I haven't done any original
research on him, except for > > gathering census records >
>
> of his alleged descendants further down the line. > > >
> > > Someone with a potential c!
onnection to Peter III has > > already responded to the > &
gt; > testing offer, and I realize I don't have what I need to >
> verify it. I'm > > > somewhere between
embarrassed and
panicked. This is what I > > have right now on > >
>
Peter (and, yes, it's pathetic): > > >
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/Car/CarricoPeterIII-_.shtml > > >
> > > Any help appreciated. We may have at our fingertips a
>
> chance! > > to test this line, > > > so
it's well
worth contributing what you have (or can > > find). Please. I
can't > > > ask a donor to fund a line without a verified
paper
trail. > > > > > > Diana > >
> > >
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