In a message dated 09/17/2000 10:28:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
RMSPAS(a)nni.com writes:
<< Subj: [CARR-L] Hugh CARR/James CARR
Date: 09/17/2000 10:28:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: RMSPAS(a)nni.com (RichardSmith)
To: CARR-L(a)rootsweb.com
I am in search of my grandfather's ancestors.
My grandfather, Jacob Sherman CARR b. 18 Apr 1868 Brown's Mill, Franklin
Co., PA; d. 5 Mar 1953 Waynesboro, Franklin Co., PA.
According to a distant cousin who still lives in Chambersburg, Franklin
Co., PA there was a Hugh CARR in the ancestry. They lived on Clay Hill
Road, Antrim Twsp, Franklin Co., PA. This is now a Greencastle, PA address.
I have found Hugh CARR 37, Sarah 35, James 9, Sarah 7, Elizabeth 5, Julian
2, William 2 months, Gearge CARR 34, Elizabeth McNelly 62 on the 1850
census for Antrim Twsp. Hugh, Sarah and their first 3 children were born in
Ireland, Julian and William born in PA. George CARR and Elizabeth McNelly
were also born in Ireland.
Might this be the same Hugh CARR that you have in your database? (born 1813)
According to Jacob's obit his parents were James and Annie CARR.
I found a James CARR buried in a cemetery in Brown's Mill.
Any ideas on this whole relationship?
Thanks for any input on this message.
Pat (NEWELL) Smith
Searching- NEWELL, CARR, SHOCKEY
>
Pat --
I am going to run with your James Carr, father of Jacob, as a tentative match
for James, son of Hugh. The data I received gave exact years of birth, but
people often do that with census information for some reason. I have changed
those dates to approximations. I have linked the two James Carrs and will use
the correspondence as corroboration, if not a firm source. It will facilitate
research and maybe someone will come along with more compelling sources. But
I'm happy with the match up for the time being. I am adding George Carr b abt
1816 Ireland as Hugh's brother, and Elizabeth (Unknown) McNulty aka McNelly
as Sarah McNulty aka McNelly's mother born abt 1788 Ireland. Could you send
me whatever details there might be on the James you found in the local
cemetery? Are there dates of birth and/or death? Who's he buried with or
near? Is he in a single grave, or is it a family plot? Can you get your local
relative to find out who made the arrangements for the burial?
You might want to check with Robert J Murgittroyd, whose site at
FamilyTreemaker is <A
HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/u/r/Robert-J-Murgittroy...
-0006.html">http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/u/r/Robert-J-Murgittroyd/GE
NE0001-0006.html</A>
Thanks for the contact. Let me know if you contact Robert or make future
progress. This is an interesting line and it should tie up a number of loose
ends in my database, as well as other people's research. I'm including the
latest chart on this line after the changes I just made. Any additions,
corrections or other suggestions are always welcome.
Descendants of Hugh Carr
1 Hugh Carr b: Abt. 1813 in Ireland d: WFT Est. 1861-1905
src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
.. +Sarah McNulty b: Abt. 1815 in Ireland m: Abt. 1837 src:
Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997; dom
rough guess. d: WFT Est. 1861-1910 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1,
Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 aka: Sarah McNelly
........ 2 James Carr b: Abt. 1841 in Ireland d 1: Aft. 1868 in
Brown's Mill, PA (Franklin Co) ? d 2: WFT Est. 1842-1931 src: Brøderbund
WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
............ +Annie Unknown b: Abt. 1845
................... 3 Jacob Sherman Carr b: Apr 18, 1868 in Browns Mill,
PA (Franklin Co) d: Mar 5, 1953 in Waynesboro, PA (Franklin Co)
....................... +Mary Esther Shockey b: Abt. 1870 m: Jun
1898
................... 3 Charles Hugh Carr b: Abt. 1870
........ 2 Sarah Carr b: Abt. 1843 in Ireland d: WFT Est.
1844-1937 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr
11, 1997
........ 2 Elizabeth Carr b: Abt. 1845 in Ireland d: WFT Est.
1846-1939 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr
11, 1997
........ 2 Julian Carr b: Abt. 1848 in Pennsylvania d: WFT Est.
1849-1938 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr
11, 1997
........ 2 William Carr b: Abt. Apr 1850 in Pennsylvania d:
WFT Est. 1851-1940 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of
Import: Apr 11, 1997
........ 2 Joseph W Carr b: Apr 1854 in Greencastle, PA src1:
Broderbund WFT Vol 1 Ed 1 Tree #3812, src2: Internet Page d: Nov 22,
1922 in Hoboken, NJ src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of
Import: Apr 11, 1997 DEATH CERTIFICATE
............ +Ann E Byers b: 1858 in St Thomas, PA src: Brøderbund
WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 m: 1877 in
Greencastle, PA src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of
Import: Apr 11, 1997 1900 CENSUS d: Feb 6, 1932 in Jersey City, NJ src:
Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
CEMETARY RECORDS
................... 3 Joseph Walter Carr b: WFT Est. 1871-1894 in
Greencastle, PA src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of
Import: Apr 11, 1997 d: WFT Est. 1914-1977 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol.
1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
....................... +Henriette Julia Sipple b: 1883 in New Jersey
src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
m: WFT Est. 1911-1944 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of
Import: Apr 11, 1997 d: WFT Est. 1913-1977 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1,
Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
................... 3 Lillian Carr b: WFT Est. 1872-1893 in Greencastle,
PA src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11,
1997 d: Jul 11, 1930 in Jersey City, NJ src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1,
Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 JERSEY JOURNAL OBIT
....................... +Otto Seitz b: 1877 in Jersey City, NJ src:
Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
JERSEY JOURNAL OBIT m: WFT Est. 1908-1927 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1,
Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 d: Sep 20, 1952 in Jersey City,
NJ src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11,
1997
................... 3 Walter Carr b: WFT Est. 1876-1899 in Pennsylvania
src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
1905 NJ STATE CENSUS d: WFT Est. 1881-1980 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol.
1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
................... 3 Daisy Carr b: Jan 22, 1878 in Greencastle, PA src:
Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 DEATH
CERTIFICATE d: Oct 2, 1929 in Jersey City, NJ src: Brøderbund WFT Vol.
1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 DEATH CERTIFICATE
....................... +Frank Murgittroyd b: May 19, 1877 in Hoboken,
NJ src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11,
1997 BIRTH CERTIFICATE m: Apr 24, 1898 in Hoboken, NJ src: Brøderbund WFT
Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE
d: Jun 27, 1949 in Jersey City, NJ src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree
#3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 JERSEY JOURNAL OBIT
................... 3 Harry Carr b: Apr 3, 1885 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol.
1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 SELECTIVE SERVICE CARD
1917 d: WFT Est. 1916-1976 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree
#3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
....................... +Margarathe O'Brien b: WFT Est. 1869-1894 src:
Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
m: WFT Est. 1916-1950 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of
Import: Apr 11, 1997 d: WFT Est. 1916-1981 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1,
Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
................... *2nd Wife of Harry Carr:
....................... +Emma Hackenberg b: WFT Est. 1881-1901 src:
Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
m: WFT Est. 1916-1950 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of
Import: Apr 11, 1997 d: WFT Est. 1916-1985 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1,
Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
........ 2 Mary Carr b: 1859 src: Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree
#3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997 d: WFT Est. 1860-1953 src:
Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3812, Date of Import: Apr 11, 1997
Pat Noble
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