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Author: myrticecarr77
Surnames: Carr, Logan, Griffin, Floyd
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Results of recent documents provided to me regarding the many tales about Paddy Carr, the
Creek Indian interpreter in Washington in 1825, shed more light on this elusive historical
character. These documents were given to me by Newell Floyd of Opelika, AL. They came to
him from the research files of T. J. Peddy, researcher and contributor of Indian artifacts
and records to Auburn University Library as Co-Executor of that man's estate. These
included some 4,700 documents dealing with the Creek Indians between 1800 and 1837. The
documents provided to me were not included in those given to the University library. One
was a letter to the Weekly Enquirer-Sun, November 1, 1890, Columbus, GA, but name of the
writer was not found in the original typed letter nor in the micro phish copy of the
newspaper where it appeared. The article was written on Oct. 26th of the same year. He
referred to recent articles seen in the papers with some allusions to the noted Indian,
Paddy Carr!
, which he considered to be erroneous. He stated that his family had been Paddy
Carr's neighbor until his removal west in 1845 or 1846 (not 1836 or 1838). The place
owned by Paddy Carr was known in 1890 as the Bank place, about 8 miles from Columbus. His
family consisted of his two wives, Milligam and Tisechee, his twin daughter Ariann and
Ariadna. The writer went to school with the daughters. Paddy's 2 brothers, Tom and
John, also lived with him. Tom was said to be well educated. John was said to be hostile
toward the whites and liked to drink "fire water". But, Col. John Crowell often
hosted hunts with Paddy Carr's wife acting as hostess for the bachelor Crowell.
Paddy Carr was reported to be quite wealthy and owned a large plantation and a number
of slaves. The report stated he did not move west until some of his old enemies (Red
Sticks) were dead, sometime in 1847. This is backed up by a document discovered in the
National Archives Microscopy #234 Roll #240 Frame 426 from a handwritten document, some
areas difficult to read. It was written by James Logan, Creek Agent on Nov. 9, 1847 to
Hon. W. Mdill, Comm. Ind. Affs. It is a request for reimbursement funds of over $900 to
Major Paddy Carr and with this request was a list of names for all parties he brought, a
total of 19 people, 8 of whom were slaves. It appeared to be two families, the Carr and
Rogers, but not listed was John.
The Co-Executor of Mr. Peddy's estate documented his own lineage from Andrew
Giffin who moved with his wife to Muscogico, GA and bought land from Paddy Carr, a large
land owner and loyal citizen. When it was time to move into the house, Paddy Carr had a
very sick child and was allowed to remain in the house. Griffin moved with his wife and
baby girl into one side of the house.
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