Robin,
"The third paragraph is a mystery" - See the data below.
I hope it helps.
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
NEW e-mail address:
johnrcarpenter(a)cox.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Analytix: RobinC" <Analytix(a)valley.net
To:
<CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:07
PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] [MinVal] Carpenter Info
Hello Carpenters
The info below was provided me on the Minisink Valley
list-serve. The first two paragraphs refer to Carpenters known to
me. (Silas and Moses W. are brothers.) The third paragraph is a mystery;
Levi Carpenter of Lumberland might be a relative of the Silas
Carpenter and Moses W. Carpenter households...or maybe not.
If anyone here knows about Levi and his family, I'd sure like to
hear it. (Or, if anyone has info on later generations of ANY of these
Carpenters, that would be terrific, too.)
Robin
>Hi Robin,
>I found your Carpenters on the 1870 census in Lumberland,
Sullivan Co.,
NY.
>Silas Carpenter, age 50, was a boat builder; Clarissa age 80 was
keeping
>house; Margaret age 48 and Temp. age 39, all born NY. Also in the
household
>was Richard Campbell who "works at building boats" and
was born in
England.
>In Forestburgh, Sullivan Co I
found Moses W. Carpenter, 49, farmer; Eliza
D.
>age 35; Clarrisa J. age 9; Lewis E. age 5; Hattie age 3; Moses W.
age 1.
>All were born in NY
>In Lumberland, Levi Carpenter age 36, b. NY, farmer &
Maria age 35, b. NJ
>had Melissa age 17; Benjamin 15; John H. age 10; Moses age 4; Peter E.
age
>2; Isaac age 6/12. Children born in NY.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Analytix: RobinC" <Analytix(a)valley.net
>To: <MinisinkValley-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:35 AM
>Subject: [MinVal] Carpenter Info
______________________________
Modified Register for Levi Carpenter-21099
First Generation
1. Levi Carpenter-21099 was born about 1832 in Carpenter's Point,
Minisink, Orange, NY. He died in of, Mongaup, Sullivan, NY.
Number 2154 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 277. No Family listed in that
book.
The family listed is likely but not proved see below.
E-MAIL:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Lee Carpenter" <diluvius(a)yahoo.com
To: <jrcrin001(a)cox.net
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:35 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: Len nd Marie Carpenter
Dear John,
I meant to info-copy you on this e-mail yesterday -- it
picks up a line that is not traced out further in Amos B.
Carpenter's book, though we don't have absolute proof yet.
However, it sure looks very likely to prove out. The
family can be summarized as follows:
Levi Carpenter, born c1834 in NY, married 1850 to Marie
Perry, who was born c1835 in NJ. They resided in Sullivan
Co. NY in 1870 and 1880. He is probably ABC#2154 on p. 277
in Amos Bugbee Carpenter's "Carpenter Memorial," a son
of
John Carpenter ABC#918, however, proof is needed.
Children:
1. Melissa Carpenter, born in Dec 1851 at Mongaup, Sullivan
Co. NY, married at Pond Eddy, Sullivan Co. NY, and died at
Port Jervis, Orange Co. NY [JT]. She married c1871 to
James Forbes Taylor, who was born c1850 in NY [JT]. They
resided in Orange Co. NY in 1880 and 1900. Children from
these censuses:
1a. Joseph Taylor, born 4 Aug 1872 -- ancestor of JT.
1b. Carrie Taylor, born c1874.
1c. Edwin H. Taylor, born c1877.
{probably others born 1880-1900}
1d. William Taylor, born Apr 1887.
2. Benjamin Carpenter, born c1855.
3. John H. Carpenter, born c1860.
4. Moses Carpenter, born c1866.
5. Peter E. Carpenter, born c1868.
6. Isaac [1870] or Abram [1880] Carpenter, born c1870.
7. Sanford Carpenter, born c1872.
JT = Jim Taylor, Warren, OH, <JTa3252718(a)aol.com>: post to
the GenForum Carpenter Family Genealogy Forum dated 1 Jan
2003, e-mails to TLC dated 3 Jan 2003 and subsequent.
You might want to add this summary to the CE CD for other
researchers to reference. I was surprised to find the
Orange Co. NY lines not well documented. Perhaps there are
other researchers working on the line who could help Jim
find his connection with the help of the CE CD.
Best regards,
Terry
CENSUS: 1880 Census
1880 Census Place: Port Jervis, Orange Co., New York
Source: FHL Film 1254910 National Archives Film T9-0910,
Page 215B:
Levi CARPENTER Self M M W 47 NY Occ: Carpenter Fa: ---Mo: ---
Mary J. CARPENTER Wife F M W 46 NY Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NY
John H. CARPENTER Son M S W 21 NY Occ: Glass Factory Fa: NY Mo: NY
Moses CARPENTER Son M S W 16 NY Occ: Masons Trade Fa: NY Mo: NY
Peter CARPENTER Son M S W 13 NY Occ: Barbers Trade Fa: NY Mo: NY
Abram CARPENTER Son M S W 10 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY
Sanford CARPENTER Son M S W 8 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY
Minnie CARPENTER Dau F S W 4 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
1870 census in Lumberland, Sullivan Co., NY.
In Lumberland, Levi Carpenter age 36, b. NY, farmer & Maria age 35, b. NJ
had Melissa age 17; Benjamin 15; John H. age 10; Moses age 4; Peter E. age
2; Isaac age 6/12. Children born in NY.
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Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter
Posted by: James Taylor (ID *****7419) Date: February 06, 2004 at 19:19:36
In Reply to: Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by Terry
Carpenter of 7016
Terry,
A very helpful researcher (Minisink Valley Historical Society) has shared
Benjamin's son, Levi V. Carpenter's
obituary. It is as follows: (January 1898)
"He was born in the old stone fort, now a part of the farm house of Mr.
Henry G. Cuddeback on June 29, 1832, being
thus 65 years and 6 months of age." He was married to 1.Mary J. Perry, who
died 15 years ago & 2.Mrs. Coleman,
who survives him. He leaves besides his wife, sons Benjamin D, Peter E,
Sanford, Abram C. Daughters: Mellissa
Taylor & Minnie Sterritt. Brother-David Carpenter & 1/2 brother Christopher
Hollenbeck & 1/2 sister Mrs Mary
Ayers."
Nancy goes on to say,"I have a copy of the death certificate (not really a
certificate just a journal entry) He died of
Consumption. It only states he died in Port Jervis and where he is buried."
Another researcher from the Minisink Valley Historical Society is compiling
information on my Carpenter Line and
will share with me as soon as everything is properly checked out.
Jim in Ohio
http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/6971.html
Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter
Posted by: James Taylor (ID *****7419) Date: January 18, 2004 at 11:30:48
In Reply to: Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by Terry
Carpenter of 7016
Hi Terry,
So glad you saw my new information. I don't have any clues concerning
Elizabeth Canfield. The only possible clue
that I can think of is that Levi had a half brother David Carpenter. I
figured Elizabeth had passed away and Benjamin
married a second time. But perhaps Elizabeth survived and remarried.
Also a fellow Carpenter researcher shared the following information with me
and I thought I would share it with you.
Benjamin Carpenter b. Abt 1757 in Jericho, Queens County, Long island. He
married Eunice Stewart b. 1756. Their
child, Benjamin, was b. Abt 1780 in Minisink, Orange County, New York.
Minisink is a neighboring town to Deerpark in New York. My Benjamin was
recorded as 40-50 years old on the 1840
census. Time frame and location makes it possible for these Carpenters to be
in my Carpenter family. I am hoping you
might be able to help confirm my suspicions.
Jim Taylor
http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/6966.html
Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter
Posted by: James Taylor (ID *****7419) Date: January 14, 2004 at 12:03:50
of 7016
I am researching my gggrandfather Levi V. Carpenter. I just received Levi's
Civil War Pension file today. His parents
are identified as Benj. D. Carpenter and Elizabeth Canfield. Benj. and
Elizabeth were living in the Town of Deerpark,
New York when Levi was born in about 1833. I would appreciate any
information about Benj. Carpenter or Elizabeth
Canfield's family lines.
Thanks,
Jim
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Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter
Posted by: Terry Carpenter (ID *****7761) Date: January 25, 2004 at 19:26:54
In Reply to: Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by James
Taylor of 7016
Jim: Here's a couple more clues that turned up in my Saturday notes from
Orange Co. NY records after I posted the
others:
Church records at Machackemack (Deerpark) Orange Co. NY record the birth of
Elizabeth Canfield on 1 Sep 1809 to
David and Mary (Sammons) Canfield. Her age correlates well with the
Elizabeth Carpenter who was in Deerpark,
Orange Co. NY in 1850 and in Lumberland, Sullivan Co. NY in 1860.
Same records record the birth of a child, no name given, on 22 Jan 1807 to
Benjamin and Margaret (Decker)
Carpenter -- could be your Benjamin D. Carpenter.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/6982.html
Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter
Posted by: Terry (ID *****7761) Date: January 24, 2004 at 16:30:23
In Reply to: Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by James
Taylor of 7016
Jim: A few more clues that have turned up in Orange Co. NY records:
- Eleanor Carpenter, born in 1793, daughter of Benjamin and Margaret
(Decker) Carpenter, married Levi VanEtten Jr.
- When Benjamin Carpenter died in 1821, Levi VanEtten Jr. was one of the
executors of his will.
- Benjamin Carpenter who died in 1821 had a son Benjamin named in his will.
Levi VanEtten may be the person for whom your Levi V. Carpenter was named.
If his father Benjamin D. Carpenter
was a son of Benjamin and Margaret (Decker) Carpenter, he might have named a
son after his brother-in-law.
More speculation, but could turn out to be good clues to follow.
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Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter
Posted by: Terry Carpenter (ID *****7761) Date: January 17, 2004 at 07:17:48
In Reply to: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by James Taylor
of 7016
Hi Jim -- Glad to see you've made more progress on your Carpenter line.
There is a Benjamin Carpenter in Deerpark,
Orange Co. NY in 1830 who appears to be the one there in 1840 with a son in
the right age range to be Levi, born
c1830-1835. In 1850 Deerpark, Orange Co. NY there is this Elizabeth:
Elizabeth Carpenter, age 40, born NY
Samuel Carpenter, 21, NY
Martin Carpenter 19, NY
She might or might not be Elizabeth (Canfield) Carpenter, widow of
Benjamin -- the data don't fit perfectly, and Levi
V. is not enumerated in her household. Any leads or clues you can give to
help find her?
Your Levi V. is enumerated in Orange Co. NY in 1860:
Levi V. Carpenter, 26, NY, miller
Mary J. Carpenter, 25, NJ
Melissa A. Carpenter, 8, NY
Benjamin D. Carpenter, 5, NY
Charles W. Carpenter, 3, NY
John W. Carpenter, 7/12, NY
He was in Sullivan Co. NY in 1870 and Orange Co. NY in 1880, as previously
documented.
If you can connect him back, I would be interested in learning more about
this line -- the Orange Co. NY Carpenters
may have had descendants in the southern states so I have been researching
them.
Terry
Levi married (MRIN:8756) Marie Perry-90412 about 1850 in , , , NY. Marie was
born about 1835 in , , , NJ.
They had the following children:
+ 2 F i. Melissa Carpenter-90455 was born in Dec 1851.
3 M ii. Benjamin Carpenter-90456 was born about 1855 in
Mongaup, Sullivan, NY.
4 M iii. John H. Carpenter-90457 was born about 1860 in
Mongaup, Sullivan, NY.
5 M iv. Moses Carpenter-90458 was born about 1866 in
Mongaup, Sullivan, NY.
6 M v. Peter E. Carpenter-90459 was born about 1868 in
Mongaup, Sullivan, NY.
7 M vi. Isaac or Abram Carpenter-90460 was born in 1870
in Mongaup, Sullivan, NY.
In the 1870 census he was listed as Isaac and in the 1880 census he was
listed as Abram. Both
born 1870.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:30 PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Abram Predmore Carpenter 1870 Port Jervis New York
I just received the obit. for Abram Predmore Carpenter. He was born
in
1870
at Glen Spey in Sullivan County New York. Abram died July 4, 1918 in
Goshen,
New York. He was the brother of my great grandmother Mellisa
Carpenter
Taylor. His parents were Levi V. and Mary Jane Perry Carpenter. He
grandparents
were Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter. I am hoping that
someone on
this list has a Abram Predmore Carpenter connection that will help me
connect
to his great grandparents.
Thanks,
Jim in Ohio
8 M vii. Sanford Carpenter-90461 was born about 1872 in
Mongaup, Sullivan, NY.
Second Generation
2. Melissa Carpenter-90455 (Levi) was born in Dec 1851 in Mongaup,
Sullivan, NY. She died in Port Jervis, Orange, NY.
Melissa married (MRIN:32792) James Forbes Taylor-90462 about 1871 in , , ,
NY. James was born about 1850 in , , , NY.
Was he the following person?
James TAYLOR (AFN: 2G43-S0) Sex: M
Event(s):
Birth: 20 Sep 1851
Hobart, Deleware, Ny
Parents:
Father: Edmund Baruch TAYLOR (AFN: 2G43-KR)
Mother: Elizabeth Janet KILPATRICK (AFN: 2G43-LX)
No exact match in IGI.
James and Melissa had the following children:
9 M i. Joseph Taylor-90463 was born on 4 Aug 1872 in ,
Orange, NY.
10 F ii. Carrie Taylor-90464 was born about 1874 in , Orange,
NY.
11 M iii. Edwin H. Taylor-90465 was born about 1877 in ,
Orange, NY.
12 M iv. William Taylor-90466 was born in Apr 1877 in ,
Orange, NY.