Gene, well said. Let's stick to trying to find our roots on this forum.
Larry R
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:42 PM, <carpenter-request(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL (elsiemay.w(a)juno.com)
2. Re: CARPENTER Digest, Vol 8, Issue 135 (Johnlsaywhat(a)aol.com)
3. Re: Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL (Robert Carpenter)
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:44:56 GMT
From: "elsiemay.w(a)juno.com" <elsiemay.w(a)juno.com>
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
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This Christmas I found more and more business places saying "Merry
Christmas." Elsie White
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 15:53:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Johnlsaywhat(a)aol.com
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] CARPENTER Digest, Vol 8, Issue 135
To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
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Thank You Gene for the reminder for us to get back on Track I don't want
the list to become a place to air Grievances like we had a few yrs ago.
Thanks Everyone for what has been said. Let us Please move on.
John L. Carpenter
Walpole,NH
CARPENTER-roots list admin
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:42:37 -0500
From: "Robert Carpenter" <rcarpenter2(a)charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
To: <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
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I agree with Gene,
Robert C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Zubrinsky" <GeneZub(a)aol.com>
To: <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
Whatever one?s opinions are regarding various social/political/religious
trends in this country, it is inappropriate to use this mailing list as a
forum for expressing them. I'm disappointed that the list administrator
(perhaps due to his own leanings) didn?t nip it in the bud.
Let?s just stick to genealogy, shall we?
Gene Z.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:42 AM, carpenter-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL (Dennis Carpenter)
> 2. Re: Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL (John R Carpenter)
> 3. Re: Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL (Jack Bank)
> 4. Re: Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL (Donna & Robert Klaesson)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 08:36:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: Dennis Carpenter <d.carpenter(a)rocketmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
> To: "carpenter(a)rootsweb.com" <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1388248594.4643.YahooMailAndroidMobile(a)web120803.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Point well taken John. The history of the descendants UEL ancestors is
> equally important to the story of our country? The point of my challenge
> to join SAR/DAR is to get more people involved in preserving the history
> of our heritage and enthuse the youth of our nation to want to learn
about
> our government and how to protect our freedoms. Membership in UEL should
> also be used to further that goal.
>
> To many people today are more interested in what happens to the
> Kardasian's?than what their representatives are doing in their State
> Houses or Washington D.C. Until we engage the minds of our youth, and
give
> them the knowledge and perspectives of our shared history no meaningful
> improvements can or should be expected. We as keepers of that history
have
> an obligation to at least try to spread that knowledge.
>
> Dennis L. Carpenter?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 09:12:28 -0800
> From: "John R Carpenter" <jrcrin001(a)cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
> To: <d.carpenter(a)rocketmail.com>, <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
> Message-ID: <3FC95BE2B5FF492EB5F512ED0003CD30@JohnCarpenter>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
> reply-type=original
>
> Dennis,
>
> I agree with your point. IF, We the People ... Our WE the Carpenter
> Cousins
> ... do not teach and show our children about the Founding of the United
> States of America and what it takes to be a true citizen, then we as a
> people are doomed to enslavement.
>
> What type of enslavement? Loss of freedom, loss of religion, and loss of
> freedom of expression to name a few. When the state becomes our god,
then
> what the state giveth the state can taketh away.
>
> One example. Our founding fathers established a protection for religion.
> Not
> to protect the people from expressing religion or practicing it, but
> protecting the people from the establishment of a state religion. Today
> the
> elites express a selective atheist anti-Christian attitude as the the
> state
> religion. It is their doctrine and becoming case law here in America.
> More
> and more, expression of religion is to conform to the new state atheist
> religion. AND I see no difference between what the Taliban did in
> Afghanistan by blowing up the 5-6,000 year old Buddha statues and those
in
> America today who wish to remove crosses and other symbols from the
public
> view. The end result is the same. This includes the destruction of
> religious
> symbols in war memorials and grave yards of our ancestors. And, yes, a
> leaked memo from the ACLU confirms their goal.
>
> We must engage our minds, the minds of the youth and our fellow citizens.
> We must awaken the sleeping giant of America.
>
> As we honor and learn about our Carpenter ancestors, let us learn and
> teach
> why they came and why they were willing to defend this Country with their
> lives if necessary.
>
> As Dennis said:
> We as keepers of that history have an obligation to at least try to
spread
> that knowledge.
>
> Amen!
>
>
> John R. Carpenter
> Carpenter Cousins Project
>
http://carpentercousins.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Carpenter
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:36 AM
> To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
>
> Point well taken John. The history of the descendants UEL ancestors is
> equally important to the story of our country The point of my challenge
> to
> join SAR/DAR is to get more people involved in preserving the history of
> our
> heritage and enthuse the youth of our nation to want to learn about our
> government and how to protect our freedoms. Membership in UEL should also
> be
> used to further that goal.
>
> To many people today are more interested in what happens to the
> Kardasian's
> than what their representatives are doing in their State Houses or
> Washington D.C. Until we engage the minds of our youth, and give them the
> knowledge and perspectives of our shared history no meaningful
> improvements
> can or should be expected. We as keepers of that history have an
> obligation
> to at least try to spread that knowledge.
>
> Dennis L. Carpenter
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 09:32:39 -0800
> From: "Jack Bank" <jackbank(a)comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
> To: <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
> Message-ID: <790BDC72ABA24E99AAFEF3695FA4B1E2@jackbankPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Good Morning, Carpenters
>
> AMEN! to all who agree with this. Makes me proud to be a Carpenter
> descendant.
>
> Jack Bank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John R Carpenter
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:12 AM
> To: d.carpenter(a)rocketmail.com ; carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
>
> Dennis,
>
> I agree with your point. IF, We the People ... Our WE the Carpenter
> Cousins
> ... do not teach and show our children about the Founding of the United
> States of America and what it takes to be a true citizen, then we as a
> people are doomed to enslavement.
>
> What type of enslavement? Loss of freedom, loss of religion, and loss of
> freedom of expression to name a few. When the state becomes our god,
then
> what the state giveth the state can taketh away.
>
> One example. Our founding fathers established a protection for religion.
> Not
> to protect the people from expressing religion or practicing it, but
> protecting the people from the establishment of a state religion. Today
> the
> elites express a selective atheist anti-Christian attitude as the the
> state
> religion. It is their doctrine and becoming case law here in America.
> More
> and more, expression of religion is to conform to the new state atheist
> religion. AND I see no difference between what the Taliban did in
> Afghanistan by blowing up the 5-6,000 year old Buddha statues and those
in
> America today who wish to remove crosses and other symbols from the
public
> view. The end result is the same. This includes the destruction of
> religious
> symbols in war memorials and grave yards of our ancestors. And, yes, a
> leaked memo from the ACLU confirms their goal.
>
> We must engage our minds, the minds of the youth and our fellow citizens.
> We must awaken the sleeping giant of America.
>
> As we honor and learn about our Carpenter ancestors, let us learn and
> teach
> why they came and why they were willing to defend this Country with their
> lives if necessary.
>
> As Dennis said:
> We as keepers of that history have an obligation to at least try to
spread
> that knowledge.
>
> Amen!
>
>
> John R. Carpenter
> Carpenter Cousins Project
>
http://carpentercousins.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Carpenter
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:36 AM
> To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
>
> Point well taken John. The history of the descendants UEL ancestors is
> equally important to the story of our country The point of my challenge
> to
> join SAR/DAR is to get more people involved in preserving the history of
> our
> heritage and enthuse the youth of our nation to want to learn about our
> government and how to protect our freedoms. Membership in UEL should also
> be
> used to further that goal.
>
> To many people today are more interested in what happens to the
> Kardasian's
> than what their representatives are doing in their State Houses or
> Washington D.C. Until we engage the minds of our youth, and give them the
> knowledge and perspectives of our shared history no meaningful
> improvements
> can or should be expected. We as keepers of that history have an
> obligation
> to at least try to spread that knowledge.
>
> Dennis L. Carpenter
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 11:42:36 -0600
> From: "Donna & Robert Klaesson" <angelheart9(a)sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
> To: <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
> Message-ID: <187703D32A8946399910A17C7CD2446A@DONNAPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Well said, John. However I believe it is not only our youth who we need
> to connect with, but more importantly with their teachers who are forming
> their young minds in a different direction than we would like them to go!
> Way too many 'teachers' of Socialistic forms of government while
outwardly
> teaching 'history' or other non-subject lectures to our young people!
> Sincerely, Donna Klaesson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John R Carpenter
> To: d.carpenter(a)rocketmail.com ; carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
>
>
> Dennis,
>
> I agree with your point. IF, We the People ... Our WE the Carpenter
> Cousins
> ... do not teach and show our children about the Founding of the United
> States of America and what it takes to be a true citizen, then we as a
> people are doomed to enslavement.
>
> What type of enslavement? Loss of freedom, loss of religion, and loss of
> freedom of expression to name a few. When the state becomes our god,
> then
> what the state giveth the state can taketh away.
>
> One example. Our founding fathers established a protection for religion.
> Not
> to protect the people from expressing religion or practicing it, but
> protecting the people from the establishment of a state religion. Today
> the
> elites express a selective atheist anti-Christian attitude as the the
> state
> religion. It is their doctrine and becoming case law here in America.
> More
> and more, expression of religion is to conform to the new state atheist
> religion. AND I see no difference between what the Taliban did in
> Afghanistan by blowing up the 5-6,000 year old Buddha statues and those
> in
> America today who wish to remove crosses and other symbols from the
> public
> view. The end result is the same. This includes the destruction of
> religious
> symbols in war memorials and grave yards of our ancestors. And, yes, a
> leaked memo from the ACLU confirms their goal.
>
> We must engage our minds, the minds of the youth and our fellow
citizens.
> We must awaken the sleeping giant of America.
>
> As we honor and learn about our Carpenter ancestors, let us learn and
> teach
> why they came and why they were willing to defend this Country with
their
> lives if necessary.
>
> As Dennis said:
> We as keepers of that history have an obligation to at least try to
> spread
> that knowledge.
>
> Amen!
>
>
> John R. Carpenter
> Carpenter Cousins Project
>
http://carpentercousins.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Carpenter
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:36 AM
> To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenters SAR/DAR and UEL
>
> Point well taken John. The history of the descendants UEL ancestors is
> equally important to the story of our country The point of my challenge
> to
> join SAR/DAR is to get more people involved in preserving the history of
> our
> heritage and enthuse the youth of our nation to want to learn about our
> government and how to protect our freedoms. Membership in UEL should
also
> be
> used to further that goal.
>
> To many people today are more interested in what happens to the
> Kardasian's
> than what their representatives are doing in their State Houses or
> Washington D.C. Until we engage the minds of our youth, and give them
the
> knowledge and perspectives of our shared history no meaningful
> improvements
> can or should be expected. We as keepers of that history have an
> obligation
> to at least try to spread that knowledge.
>
> Dennis L. Carpenter
>
>
>
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