In a message dated 1/1/2006 6:17:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dcuzze(a)earthlink.net writes:
Well, right off the bat I caught two typos. Here is corrected copy, Samuel
Carpenter of Horsham as suggested by Bryan Skyfield's research. Donna
Descendants of Robert Carpenter I
1 Robert CARPENTER I b: Bet. 1480 - 1504 in >ENG, Horsham SOURCES 1: 2005
THIS INFO CONDENSED FROM BRYAN SKYFIELD's "Samuel Carpenter and the naming of
Horsham Pennsylvania."
http://www.horsham.org/information/history.aspx. NOTE:
2005 "No Pedigree Conclusions Can Be Drawn From Horsham Records." Only
SPECULATION to family connections can be made. THIS OUTLINE IS SPECULATION. Census
1: 1524 A Robert Carpenter shows owing tax on subsidy roll in Horsham,
England.
...... 2 Robert CARPENTER II b: Bet. 1535 - 1585 in >ENG, Horsham NOTE: Bet.
1600 - 1699 Over 40 baptismal records for CARPENTERS still exist from
Horsham, England. Some surnames may have come from their occupation and not
necessarily a surname. RECORD 1: April 28, 1604 Death record exists in Horsham, ENG
for a Robert Carpenter and widow Elizabeth. d: April 28, 1604 in ENG, Horsham
.......... +ELIZABETH b: Bet. 1560 - 1585 RECORD 1: 1604 Elizabeth was the
name of Robert Carpenter's widow. RECORD 2: September 12, 1610 An Elizabeth
Carpenter married John COOPER. Possibly Robert's widow or his daughter? d: Aft.
1604
.............. 3 Eleanor CARPENTER b: 1601 in ENG, Horsham RECORD 1: 1601
Baptism record does NOT list parents. She is "POSSIBLY" the daughter of Robert.
.............. 3 John CARPENTER b: Bet. 1603 - 1610 in >ENG, Horsham SOURCES
1: 2005 Author, Bryan Skyfield, cites the American work "Samuel Carpenter
and his Descendants" as source for John Carpenter's marriages and children,
stating "Of the twelve children, seven are mentioned in later family wills and
records." NOTE: 1610 There is "no record" of John's birth in Horsham.
NOTE 2::
2005 Bryan Skyfield suggests birth of about 1610. Since John named an early
born son ROBERT, and Robert of Horsham died 1604, I suggest John may
"possibly" be son of Robert being born abt 1603. RECORD 1: 1645 Robert FEAST,
Edward
PINFOLD & John CARPENTER fined for drinking and not attending church.
Possibly this John. RECORD 2: 1671 Death record exists in Horsham, ENG for a John
Carpenter. WILLS:: 2005 Sarah, Lea and Jane were not mentioned in wills. It is
"my" observation that the John who married Mary may have been a different
John (the one who drank?) and not the same man as John the father of Samuel and
the rest. d: 1671 in ENG, Horsham
.................. +Mary SOMERSALE b: Abt. 1614 in >ENG, Horsham m: January
15, 1631/32 Father: George SOMERSALE Mother: Margaret WOOD RECORD 1: 1605
Marriage record exists for Margaret Wood & George Somersale. RECORD 2: 1632
Marriage record exists for Mary Somersale & John Carpenter. Record 3: 1642 Death
record exists in Horsham, ENG. She died one day after son Samuel was
baptised. d: June 13, 1642 in ENG, Horsham
...................... 4 Lea (Eleanor?) CARPENTER b: December 27, 1635 in
ENG, Horsham NOTE: 1635 Could Lea be short for eLEAnore ? There was an Eleanor
Carpenter baptised 1601 who was "possibly" sister of John. RECORD 1: 1635
Baptism record exists in Horsham, ENG.
...................... 4 John CARPENTER, Jr. b: Bet. June - August 1638 in
ENG, Horsham Stayed in England. RECORD 1: 1638 Baptism record exists
in
Horsham, ENG.
...................... 4 Samuel CARPENTER b: June 12, 1642 in ENG, Horsham
RECORD 1: 1642 Baptism record exists in Horsham, ENG. RECORD 2: 1644 Death
record exists in Horsham, ENG. d: 1644 in ENG, Horsham
.............. *2nd Wife of John CARPENTER:
.................. +SARAH b: Abt. 1622 in ENG, Horsham m: Abt. 1642 d: Abt.
1652 in ENG, Horsham
...................... 4 Robert CARPENTER b: 1643 in ENG, Horsham d: 1644 in
ENG, Horsham
...................... 4 Mary "twin" CARPENTER b: 1644 in ENG, Horsham
RECORD 1: 1705 Listed as widow in Lambeth. d: Aft. 1705
...................... 4 Sarah "twin" CARPENTER b: 1644 in ENG, Horsham
...................... 4 Dameris CARPENTER b: 1646 in ENG, Horsham
Southwark
.......................... +David HUNT b: in
>ENG, Southwark
...................... 4 Samuel "PA" CARPENTER b: December 20, 1649 in ENG,
Horsham >Barbados >PENN 1638 Horsham, Montgomery Co RECORD 1: 2005 THIS INFO
CONDENSED FROM BRYAN SLYFIELD's "Samuel Carpenter and the naming of Horsham
Pennsylvania."
http://www.horsham.org/information/history.aspx RECORD 2: Bet.
1683 - 1684 Note: baptismal record in Horsham, ENG. Bought 5420 acres in
Horsham, PA, was a Quaker, merchant, councilman. Built a dock for shipping of his
goods. Record 3: 1683 BARBADOS records show a Samuel Carpenter being fined
him twice for not furnishing (helping) men at arms. Samuel Carpenter arrives in
PENNSYLVANIA (the same year of the fines) JULY 1683. Record 4: 1709 He was
Treasurer of Pennsylvania. ref: History of Horsham Township. d: 1714 in PA,
Horsham, Montgomery Co.
.......................... +Hannah HARDIMAN b: Abt. 1646 in South Wales
PENN 1638 m: 1684 in PA, Montgomery Co. d: 1728 in PA, Horsham,
Montgomery Co.
............................... 5 Samuel "PA" CARPENTER,
Jr. b: Bet. 1684 -
1688 in PA, Horsham, Montgomery Co.
............................... 5 John "PA" CARPENTER b: Bet. 1684 - 1688 in
PA, Horsham, Montgomery Co.
............................... 5 Hannah "PA" CARPENTER b: Bet. 1684 - 1688
in PA, Horsham, Montgomery Co.
................................... +William FISHBOURNE b: Abt. 1682 RECORD
1: 1714 Samuel Carpenter Sr died in this son in law's home.
...................... 4 Jane CARPENTER b: 1652 in ENG, Horsham
.............. *3rd Wife of John CARPENTER:
.................. +ELIZABETH b: Abt. 1630 in ENG, Horsham m: Abt. 1652 d:
Aft. 1655
...................... 4 Abraham CARPENTER b: 1652 in ENG, Horsham Will:
1708 Left will giving negroes to brother Samuel. No children named. d: 1708 in
ENG, Horsham
...................... 4 Joshua CARPENTER b: 1654 in ENG, Horsham d: 1722
.......................... +ELIZABETH b: Abt. 1654 in ENG, Horsham
............................... 5 Samuel CARPENTER b: Bet. 1672 - 1695 in
ENG, Horsham
............................... 5 Sarah CARPENTER b: Bet. 1672 - 1695 in
ENG, Horsham
...................... 4 Debora CARPENTER b: 1655
...... 2 Joan CARPENTER b: Bet. 1535 - 1552 in "No Known Connection to
Robert Carpenter" RECORD 1: April 03, 1598 Death record in Horsham, ENG. Most
likely mother of the bastard child Christopher Carpenter whose mother was named
as Joan Carpenter. d: April 03, 1598 in ENG, Horsham
.............. 3 Christopher CARPENTER b: July 21, 1567 in ENG, Horsham
RECORD 1: July 21, 1567 Baptised and listed as bastard child of Joan Carpenter.
RECORD 2: September 19, 1567 Death record in Horsham, ENG. d: September 19,
1567 in ENG, Horsham
...... 2 Thomas CARPENTER b: Bet. 1515 - 1540 in >ENG, Horsham "No proven
relationship to Robert or Joan" RECORD 1: November 05, 1559 Named as godfather
to William DAVYSON. Assuming he was an adult, at least 18, he was born BEFORE
1541. RECORD 2: June 03, 1561 A Thomas Carpenter, JUVEN (young man or
bachelor) is named as godfather to Thomas ROWE. I assume if there was a "JUVEN"
that there is possibly a Thomas the ELDER. d: November 17, 1581
.......... +First Wife CARPENTER b: Bet. 1523 - 1548 m: Bet. 1543 - 1562 d:
Abt. 1564
.............. 3 Thomas CARPENTER, Jr. b: May 09, 1563 in >ENG, Horsham
RECORD 1: May 09, 1563 Baptism record exists in Horsham, ENG for a Thomas
Carpenter the son of Thomas Carpenter.
...... *2nd Wife of Thomas CARPENTER:
.......... +Alice (Fiste) FEASTE, widow b: Bet. 1530 - 1545 m: May 20, 1565
in Eng, Horsham d: January 20, 1569/70
.............. 3 Susanna CARPENTER b: August 06, 1568 in ENG, Horsham RECORD
1: August 06, 1568 Baptism record exists in Horsham, ENG for a Susanna
Carpenter born to a Thomas Carpenter.