Thanks, Gene - you always come to the rescue... Hope all is well with you
and yours.
Bette
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrews" <mailandrews(a)verizon.net>
To: <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] More NY Carpenters on NEHGS website
Thanks, Gene
One of the problems with the postings on Ancestry is that seldom does
one get a response from the poster when sources or contacts are
requested. So one is left to take the information and just use it as
"clues" to research further (I guess, as is true with all data we
find). Your information is interesting and helpful.
bandrews
On Jan 29, 2007, at 3:31 AM, GeneZub(a)aol.com wrote:
> The following is offered as a partial antidote to certain lingering
> misconceptions and bad habits:
>
> << Nathaniel, b 12 May 1667 Pawtucket, Providence RI, . . . >>
>
> The Providence Carpenters lived not at Pawtucket (northeast of
> Providence,
> originally part of Rehoboth, Mass.) but Pawtuxet, then the
> southern section of
> Providence and now the eastern part of Cranston. (The northern
> part of
> Warwick was also called Pawtuxet. The two Pawtuxets were on
> either side of the
> Pawtuxet River at its mouth.)
>
> << His parents: Joseph Arnold Carpenter (1635 to 1683) and Hannah
> Bennett
> Carpenter (3 Apr 1640 to 1670) >>
>
> A few of those who post ancestral data online inappropriately give
> each of
> their subjects a middle name by inserting the maiden name of that
> person's
> mother. Middle names were almost nonexistent in the 17th century,
> however, and
> didn't become popular until the 19th. The Joseph Carpenter
> mentioned above,
> son of William1 and Elizabeth (Arnold) Carpenter of Pawtuxet
> (Providence),
> had no middle name. He was, moreover, born not in 1635 (in
> England) but about
> 1638 in Providence, where his parents had almost certainly met and
> married
> (see NEHGR 159[2005]:67-68).
>
> Joseph's first wife, Hannah, had no middle name either. But if
> she had had
> one, and it had been the same as her mother's maiden name, it
> would have been
> Briant: she was the daughter of William1 and Abigail (Briant)
> Carpenter of
> Rehoboth (see TAG 70[1995]:194, 203). (Bennett was the maiden
> name of
> Hannah's brother William's first wife, Priscilla.) Hannah died
> not necessarily in
> 1670 but between 1670 and 1673.
>
> << Nathaniel, b 12 May 1667 Pawtucket, Providence RI, d 25 Feb
> 1729/30 North
> Castle, Westchester, NY (death date is so specific that there
> probably was a
> will some place) >>
>
> This birth date is suspect. D. H. Carpenter (1901) estimates it
> as the
> summer of 1668. To my knowledge, no birth record has been found
> for Nathaniel or
> any of his siblings.
>
> Specific death dates generally come from vital, church, and/or
> cemetery
> records; less often from death notices, obituaries, and local
> histories; and only
> rarely from probate records. Some early wills, particularly in Rhode
> Island, include death dates, but that is not typical of the
> region. If we are to
> believe some of the postings on
Ancestry.com, Nathaniel's death
> date comes
> from the _New York Mercury_, issue of 1 Jan. 1759 [sic], and from
> North Castle
> Friends (Quaker) records.
>
> << wife: Tamar Wright Coles, b 18 May 1673 Oyster Bay, Queens, NY,
> d 25 Feb
> 1730 North Castle (same day?) >>
>
> Same for Tamar Coles: no middle name. While her birth date comes
> from her
> father's journal, I find no reliable source for her death date.
> (It would be
> worthwhile to check the aforementioned Friends records.)And of
> course its
> being the same as that for Nathaniel, while possible, is improbable.
>
> << Her parents: Robert Coles (1642 to 16 Apr 1715) and Mercy
> Wright ( 4 June
> 1651 to 21 Oct 1708) >>
>
> Mercy Wright's birth date comes from Sandwich, Mass., vital
> records, and
> both death dates are from Robert Coles's journal. His birth year,
> on the other
> hand, has been estimated by Robert Charles Anderson as "say" 1644
> (_The Great
> Migration Begins_, 1:438).
>
> Gene Z.
>
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