Cortlandt,
I have expanded your message to the other Carpenter discussion group also.
Thank you for adding more to what is already known and confirming parts of our Carpenter
ancestry.
I have uploaded a descendant report to your cloud on what I have on the descendants of
Jotham Carpenter-26066 b. 26 Aug 1763 North Castle, Westchester, New York and who died 27
Mar 1852 in Westchester County, New York. He married Susannah Forman-28008 (1764 NY – 1820
NY) in 1784. They are buried in the Carpenter Cemetery, North Castle, Westchester, New
York.
I also added a report his ancestry back to the Carpenter immigrants. Please be aware the
paternal Carpenter line goes back to the Carpenter line that comes out of Providence, RI
which came to America in 1635.
There is a connection to the Carpenter line that comes out of Rehoboth, MA via marriage.
The two Carpenter line are represented by Groups 2 and 3 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA
Project respectively.
The absolute best information on the two William Carpenter immigrants (of Group 2 & 3)
that came over from England in 1635 and 1638 is documented in the Carpenter Sketches by
Eugene Zubrinsky.
You can link to the above mentioned items via our main web page at:
https//carpentercousins.com
Regarding your Part 5. James Usher & William Barker created the 1883 book in part to
defraud or deny the true ancestry for supposed claims against money held by the British
Crown for the rightful heirs. It was a fraud. See CAUTION below.
With Y-DNA research and better access to genealogical research, the ancestry of your
Carpenter line is better known today that even 50 or 100 years ago.
These corrections were done by volunteers, citizen scientists if you will, working
together using DNA tests. This included gathering what was known about the various
Carpenter lines then pruning and correcting them based upon the documentary evidence in
conjunction with what was found with the Y-DNA testing.
By your willingness and contribution, you are now one of us. A volunteer, a citizen
scientist, that submitted what you had for peer review. And we all learned more in the
process.
Thank You!
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA USA
Carpenter Cousins Project - Our main support page!
https://carpentercousins.com
Part 1
Missing
Part 2
Family Record of the Moger Family
John Moger left Mass in the year 1655 …
Part 3
Family Record of the Forman Family
Aaron Forman of Matanacock Town of Oyster Bay Long Island State of New York. He was born
Jan 1st 1657 ...
Part 4
Family record of the Carpenter Family
William Carpenter we find at Rhode Island about the year 1660 …
Note: Page 3 has the family of Jotham and Susannah Carpenter …
Descendants of Jotham Carpenter-26066 b. 26 Aug 1763 North Castle, Westchester, New York
and who died 27 Mar 1852 in Westchester County, New York. He is buried in the Carpenter
Cemetery, North Castle, Westchester, New York.
His notes include the following:
Number 242 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America, 1901.
Family on page 155 &156. He was a farmer at North Castle.
Part 5
This is a copy of James Usher & William Barker material and from the 1883 book.
CAUTION
The BOOK "Genealogical and Historical Record of the Carpenter Family" by James
Usher in 1883 needs to be used with great caution.
For example: Starting about page 30 is the Cotleb Zimmerman line. This is blatantly wrong
on parentage of The Carpenter Family of Long Island and NY.
Mr. W. C. Barker, who sent the material to Usher seems to have reversed dobs and children
in his record. It appears consistent in several families. The 1901 book has been used as a
guide, with explanation, for corrections.
James Usher was also a lawyer who made a lot of money adjusting genealogies and
de-frauding many who sought their rightful monies from deceased estates in England. For
example: He bilked the Carpenter Family Association out of thousands of dollars during the
mid to late 1800s. At the end of the 1882 book, careful reading will show the sequence of
such fraud and a statement by Usher stating there was no monies to be had in England for
the rightful heirs. Yet, documents show that Usher still was making contacts for people
for heir estates into the 1890s.
Many many corrections have been made on the lines described in Usher's book.
To be generous ... many Carpenter lines in the Southern states and those with Loyalists
from the Revolution in the Northeast had their genealogy modified to deny them the claim
to money being held by the Crown in England. What is ironic is that there was no money to
be had - it was all a fraud. The winners? The lawyers liked Usher.
-----Original Message-----
From: Painter Jon
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 4:37 PM
To: Carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CARPENTER] Hi from a descendant of Jonathan Carpenter
Hi, my name is Cortlandt Moger. I am currently the steward of our old
family record book (we call it the Hair Book) written by Carpenter Moger,
my Great Great Grandfather. Apparently, he is the Grandson of Jonathan
Carpenter (b. Aug. 26th 1763)
My book pre dates the civil War and has six pages on the Carpenter Family
history from 1593 to 1808.
Probably doesn't have anything new to you in it but I thought you might be
interested in a digital copy for comparison.
Please let me know if you would like me to send you a link to it when I get
it uploaded to the cloud.
JCM
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