Robert,
Joseph Carpenter-13138 b. 2 Jan 1753 Hopewell, Hunterdon, NJ d. 20 Jan 1839
Knob Creek, Cleveland, NC. My notes indicate the following.
Number 322 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 86
Family on page 159 (#144)
He moved from Hopewell to Bucks county, PA and after the death of his
father, to North Carolina in 1775 and located in Irvon: afterwards to
Ruthford (now Cleveland county). They were both buried at Knob Creek,
Cleveland county, NC.
Hunterdon county until 1838 when Hopewell became part of Mercer county.
Joseph moved from Hopewell to Bucks , ,PA, and after the
death of his father, to North Carolina, in 1775, and located in
Irvon; afterwards to Ruthford (now Cleveland County).2 SOUR S203
The Carpenter Memorial (1898) was a remarkable book for its time with about
900 pages. However time, author speculations and errors of merged families
are not uncommon.
Add in those Carpenters who did their own merging and speculation since,
which over time became a so called truth, and you can get a mix of strange
things.
A Y-DNA test of one or more male Carpenter descendants will help determine
the truth. Ideally the people being tested would be a descendant of Peter
and John who are sons of Joseph Carpenter-13138.
I too am curious! Group 5 or Group 3?
John R. Carpenter
Carpenter Cousins Project
http://carpentercousins.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Carpenter
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:51 AM
To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Joseph Carpenter-13138 and Susanna Eakers-13139
John and all,
I am hoping that a male member of this family will have their DNA tested.
The lineage of this Joseph back to William Carpenter of English descent has
been contested. Joseph Zimmerman, whose brother was Samuel, resided in
upper Cleveland County, NC. They married Eaker sisters. All were German.
Joseph and Samuel are not direct descendants of Hans Zimmerman of Group 5
but rather of a relative from Pennsylvania. Their mother, Margaret Caquelin
(variously spelled) named them in her will. She married a Zimmerman first
and then a Caquelin. Samuel moved to Kentucky and a number of Joseph's
descendants moved to Tennessee. Others remained in North Carolina. Bob and
I have been unable to get a descendant of Joseph or Samuel to have their DNA
tested to prove once and for all that they belong to Group 5.
I am hopeful that this contact may motivate a member of the family to do so.
Robert Carpenter
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