Hello Dusti,
Terry Lee Carpenter had been looking into Carpenters from New England to the
South many years ago. I will forward this message to him.
Below is a family draft of what I have on your Rev. Timothy Carpenter.
Contact me off list for more info.
Glad to help.
John R. Carpenter
Carpenter Cousins Project
http://carpentercousins.com
jrcrin001(a)cox.net
DRAFT
Descendant Report for
Hannah Brown-19294
Family snippet
First Generation
1. Hannah Brown-19294 was born on 29 Apr 1767 in Boston,Suffolk,MA.
She was christened on 29 Apr 1770. She died on 26 Sep 1869 in
McMinnville,McMinn,TN. She was buried in Tranquility,Methodist
Cem.,McMinnville,TN.
BIRTH: 29 Apr 1770 in one record and 29 Apr 1767 in another record.
When her father died, her brother Noah was appointed administrator of his
estate on 28 Apr. 1777 and guardian of Hannah.
Hannah married (MRIN:8184) Timothy Carpenter-19295 son of Cyril
Carpenter-6837 and Luse or Lucy Lane-6838 (MRIN:2897) on 25 Aug 1795 in
Boston,,MA. Timothy was born on 1 Mar 1773 in North Attleboro,Bristol,MA. He
was christened on 2 Mar 1773. He died on 7 Feb 1853 in Northern Part
of,McMinn,TN. He was buried in Tranquility,Methodist Cem.,Morgan,TN.
A traveling Methodist preacher.
!BIRTH: Born 2 Mar 1773 in one record and 1 Mar 1773 in another.
!DEATH: Death information by Charles Martin Ward, Jr. in the Mayflower
Quarterly, Feb. 1995.
SEE: "The Mayflower Quarterly" Feb. 1995, page 59 to 65 by Charles Martin
Ward, Jr. the great-great-great grandson of Cyril Carpenter, the youngest
son
of Timothy and Hannah Carpenter.
Donna Marie McDonnell Hogle of San Diego, CA provided information on
Timothy's
son (Sid's descendantcy) in August 1997.
FAMILY: Ox team to KY. Then Three Forks of Wolf River, TN. Page 10 Our
Family
Tree 4th of 12 children. Timothy Jr, Consider, Lucy, Deborah, John, Dan,
Cyril and Nancy. The first four born in MA. Some records show them in Rowe,
Franklin, MA but family tradition says they lived near Salem, MA. "Our
Family
Tree", p.9-10.
"...Timothy Carpenter, a burly, aggressive pioneer, of Scotch descent...He
was
a Yankee, raised to young manhood in the State of Connecticut, but drifting
up
to Boston Mass. he married Hannah Brown, of that city. (He) was an
Itinerant,
or travelling Methodist Preacher. They lived in Salem for quite a few
years,
as my grandfather, Consider Carpenter, the second son, was six years of age
when visiting great grandmothers family in Boston, a farewell visit on the
way
to TN became lost seeing the sights of the city, holding up the expedition
for
a couple of days. They travelled overland all the way, by Ox team, reaching
the southern part of Kentucky, they stopped for a short time, coming a
little
later to TN where there was a small settlement at the Three Forks of Wolf
River. The first settler of the valley was a hunter and pioneer of VA by
the
name of Coonrod Pyle, (Ancestor of #1084, mother of SGT. Alvin York) who
discovered it on a hunting and pioneering expedition in company with Daniel
Boone. Tim bought a farm on a small stream, called Cove Creek, a tributary
of
the Wolf River, and near the original Settlement which he farmed with the
help
of his five sons until they reached manhood or were of age. Grandfather
himself was preaching, travelling a circuit extending over the southern part
of Kentucky, and the counties of Fentress, Morgan and portions of Scott,
Cumberland and Overton Counties making the rounds of his circuit once a
month,
preaching in the homes of the sparsely settled inhabitants, in groves of
trees
or in brush covered Arbors. Settlers travelled for miles to attend
preaching services. Tim (eventually) sold the Wolf River Farm to his second
son Consider and took up a 1000 acre grant of Government land....built a
house
...on White Oak Creek (with) a flowing stream of delightfully cold water,
where they kept their Dairy Products, and cooled their watermelons in the
Summertime..nearby he constructed a Lumber and Gris(t) Mill for grinding
corn,
building a dam across the stream for power. The Dam was made of split pine
logs, held to the Frameing by means of wooden pins, there was not a nail in
the building the same being true of his dwelling, which consisted of two
pens
or houses, with a ten foot porch between (Dog Trot House). That place was
known as the Carpenter Mills, and was probably the only mill within a
20-mile
radius. The farmer would place a bushel and a half bag of corn across the
back of a horse, straddle it himself, and spend a full day going to the mill
and back. But time meant very little to those people, the principal thing
was
to get some bread in the house, a couple of weeks supply generally being in
that bag."
Occupation given as "Miller" on 1850 census for Morgan Co., TN.
BURIAL: C.M. Ward in Mayflower Quarterly, Feb.1995 says, "Timothy
Carpenter's tombstone inscription reads, 'Father gone home'. Hannah
Carpenter's tombstone inscription reads 'Mother at rest'. Timothy and
Hannah
Carpenter are buried next to their sons, Cyril and Dan Carpenter, and
their wives."
NOTES: Timothy Carpenter was born on 1 Mar 1773 in Connecticut. He died on 7
Feb 1853. He was buried in Tranquility United Methodist
Church Cemetery, County Road 220, McMinn County, TN. He was a Methodist
minister. Timothy Carpenter was a Yankee born in Connecticut.
Rumor has it that some of his people left money in Ireland. As a young man,
Timothy moved to Massachusetts and Married Hannah Brown. Early
in life he became a Methodist minister, and his brother Samuel Carpenter was
a
missionary Baptist preacher. Reverend Timothy Carpenter and
his wife came from Massachusetts to Kentucky. After traveling for a few
years
in Kentucky, he came to Tennessee and purchased a good farm
on Wolf River.
Our forefathers came to McMinn County in 1853. They settled in three areas -
the Charlie Russell Place, the place where James Hyde lived, and
what was known as the "Sliger Place", which later belonged to Chris
Wattenbarger and was owned by John Carpenter until he died in 1966. The
Carpenters were of English descent. Parents: Cyril Carpenter and Lucy Lane.
He was married to Hannah Brown on 25 Aug 1795 in Boston, MA. Children were:
Timothy Carpenter , Consider Carpenter, Lucy Carpenter ,
Deborah Carpenter, Dan Carpenter , Nancy Carpenter, John Carpenter , Cyril
Carpenter.
SEE: Web page at:
http://users.pld.com/rod/Genealogy/d4.htm
Timothy and Hannah had the following children:
2 M i. Timothy Carpenter-19296 was born on 23 Mar 1796 in
Rowe,Franklin,MA. He died in 1850 in ,,TX.
SEE: From C.M.Ward, Feb. 1995 MAYFLOWER QUARTERLY. Timothy and Alsie
Carpenter
left TN and settled in TX. They are found in Fannin County, TX in the 1840
census. Timothy Carpenter, Jr. was evidently dead by the time of the 1850
census when his widow, Alsie Carpenter, is found living in the home of A.B.
Willson in Dallas County, TX.
Timothy married (MRIN:8206) Alsie Dale-19282 in 1814. Alsie was born about
1796.
+ 3 M ii. Consider (Sid) Carpenter-19228 was born on 25 Jul
1797. He died on 22 May 1869.
4 F iii. Lucy Carpenter-19283 was born on 15 Mar 1799 in
Rowe,Franklin,MA. She died before Apr 1891 in Whitley City,,KY.
DEATH: SOUR Birth date, husbands name and death place from Robert Whitall.
Lucy married (MRIN:8207) Middleton B. Holloway-19284 about 1824 in
,Cumberland,KY. Middleton was born about 1800. He died after 1895.
OCCUPATION: Postmaster/Whitley Cty,KY.
!DEATH: "Our Family Tree and Its Branches" by George Galloway, p.10
Per C.M. Ward in Mayflower Quarterly Feb., 1995 "They are on the 1850 Morgan
Co.
TN census with MA as Lucy's place of birth. The Holloways later settled in
KY, and Lucy Holloway is buried near Whitley City, KY. In Apr.1891, Rev.
A.B.
Wright visited Middleton Holloway and he records that they 'walked out one-
half mile to the grave of Lucy Carpenter Holloway, his first wife, and also
an
aunt of my wife'."
5 F iv. Deborah Carpenter-19285 was born on 1 Feb 1800 in
Rowe,Franklin,MA.
She was christened on 5 Feb 1800 in Rowe,Franklin,MA. She died on 2 Feb 1867
in Jamestown,Fentress,TN. She was buried in Wolf River Cem.,Fentress,TN.
DEATH: Birth date, husband, and death place from Robert Whitall.
Deborah married (MRIN:8208) Cornelius Mitchell Frogge-19286 in 1819 in
,Morgan,TN. Cornelius was born in 1799 in Augusta,Greenbriar,VA. He died in
Jul 1845 in ,Fentress,TN. He was buried in Wolf River Cem.,Fentress,TN.
6 F v. Hannah Carpenter-29522 was born on 9 Sep 1802 in
Rowe,Franklin,MA. She died before 1818 in ,,KY.
DEATH: Died young.
+ 7 M vi. John Carpenter-19234 was born in 1805. He died before
Aug 1838.
8 M vii. Daniel Carpenter-19287 was born on 27 Mar 1807 in
,,SC. He was christened on 24 Dec 1807 in ,,TN. He died on 31 Mar 1891 in
,McMinn,TN. He was buried in Tranquility,Methodist Cem.,Morgan,TN.
OCCUPATION: Methodist Minister.
DEATH: SOUR Birth, marriage, and death information from Robert Whitall.
Both Dan and Cyril were Methodist ministers. They moved to Sweetwater, TN,
near Athens, and were instrumental in establishing a Theological School,
Athens College. They married sisters named Cisel. Our Family Tree and Its
Branches, p.10. Robert Whitall spelled the sisters' name CISCEL.
C.M.Ward says CECIL. "Purchased land in McMinn Co., Nov. 17, 1848."
NOTES: Dan Carpenter was born on 24 Dec 1807. He died on 31 Mar 1891. He
was
buried in Tranquility United Methodist Church Cemetery,
County Road 220, McMinn County, TN. He was a Methodist minister. Dan was a
Methodist minister from early life and had no children. He was
called a "circuit rider" and covered parts of Tennessee and Virginia using a
sheepskin for a saddle. According to 1850 Census of McMinn
County, TN birthplace was South Carolina. Parents: Timothy Carpenter and
Hannah
Brown.
SEE Web Page at:
http://users.pld.com/rod/Genealogy/d3.htm#P626
Daniel married (MRIN:8209) Jane Cissel-19289 . Jane was born about 1807.
NAME: Ceceil or Cissel.
+ 9 F viii. Nancy Carpenter-19292 was born in 1808. She died in
1860/1862.
+ 10 M ix. Cyril Carpenter-19290 was born on 20 Mar 1812. He
died on 27 Sep 1899.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dusti Ide
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 5:57 AM
To: Carpenter-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenter, Tabor, Snow, Fenton, Mosher,Brown - 1800 New
England, New York
Good morning and Happy New Year to the list.
I hope to find a New England connection between Rev. Timothy Carpenter and
Hannah Brown(e), his wife, who came to the Carolinas, then into TN about
1800 and the following associated families: Brown, Tabor, Snow, Fenton,
and Mosher. The latter two may also have origins in the New York area.
Is anyone studying migration patterns out of New England into the South?
Thank you for your time.
Dusti