More information on the family of Rev. Timothy Carpenter
Here are parts of a story about this family written by a Mr. George Galloway
in 1945. "This story was passed down from my great grandmother, this is
about the family of the Carpenters and Galloways:"
HISTORY OF THE ANTECEDENTS OF THE GALLOWAYS AND CARPENTERS
WRITTEN BY: GEORGE C. GALLOWAY 1945
INTRODUCTORY
When I was a small boy I used to sit on a stool alongside my mothers chair
and operate a small flax spinning wheel. This spinning wheel was run by a
sewing machine style treadle, and my mother being in very poor health was
unable to run it herself. To while away the time, for we did this for hours
and days, I used to read and study spelling from Noah Websters Old Blue
Back Speller, and when tired of this mother would tell me stories of her
childhood daysstories of her aunts, great and great aunts.
Some of her stories were very interesting, and being often told me made such
an impression on my mind that I have never forgotten them. So I am going to
piece them together, and write you a history of our relatives, as my mothers
gave them to me following up with such family history as has come under my
own observation. I am judging the dates somewhat by the date of my grand
parents on my mothers side of the relationshipThe Carpenters. My
Grandmother Carpenter being born in the year 1800, and my Grandfather
Carpenter, who was three years her senior, being born in 1797.
The Grandparents on my fathers side were probably ten years older than
those of my Mothers, so the ages I will give will be somewhat approximate
but not very far wrong.
And now this is the story my Mother gave to me.
My Great Grandfather, on my Mothers side of the family, was Timothy
Carpenter. A burly aggressive Pioneer, of England and Scotch descent, born
in the year 1763. He was a Yankee. His Fathers family living in the town of
North Attleboro, Massachusetts, but he drifted up to Boston and married
Hannah Brown of that city. They moved to, or settled in or near the town of
Salem, Massachusetts where several members of the family were born.
Great Grandfather Tim Carpenter was an Itinerant or traveling Methodist
Preacher. They lived in Salem for quite a few years as their second son,
Consider (my Grandfather), was six years of age when they visited Great
Grandmothers family in Boston on a farewell visit on their way to Tennessee
Little Consider got lost in seeing the sights of the city, and held up the
expedition for a couple of days.
They traveled overland, all the way by Ox-team, to the southern part of
Kentucky, where they stopped for a short time, coming a little later to
Tennessee, where there was a small settlement at the three forks of Wolf
River. The first settler of the little valley at the forks of the river, was
a Hunter and Pioneer by the name of Coonrod Pyle, who discovered it while on
a hunting and exploring expedition, in company with Daniel Boone. Other
pioneer settlers were such names as Crockets, Delks, Brahnims, Frogges,
Conatsers, and others whose descendants many of them are living there at the
present time. They came mostly from Virginia and North Carolina.
Great Grandfather Timothy bought a farm, on a small stream, called Cove
Creek, a tributary of Wolf River and near the original settlement. He farmed
with the assistance of his five sons, until they were grown up or became of
age. Great Grandfather in the meantime was preaching, traveling a circuit,
extending at first over the southern part of Kentucky then later over
countries of Fentress, Morgan, Scott, and parts of Cumberland and Overton of
Tennessee. He made the rounds of his circuit once per month, preaching in
the homes of the sparsely settled farmers, and in the summertime in groves
of trees, or in brush covered arbors. The settlers traveled for miles to
attend preaching services.
Great Grandfathers family consisted of eight memberfive boys and three
girls. Boys were named Timothy Jr., Consider (my Grandfather), John, Dan,
and Cyril. The girls were named Deborah, Lucy and Nancy. Timothy Carpenter
Jr. Went to Texas at an early date in the history of that state. Of him I
know nothing.
· My Grandfather Sid Carpenter married Susan Guthrie.
· John Carpenter married Rhoda Gurthie, sister by the name of Cissel. They
moved to Sweet-Water Tennessee, in McMinn county, near Athens, Tennessee.
They were both Methodist Preachers and were instrumental in establishing a
Methodist Theological School at Athens, Tennessee. Many descendants of Dan
and Cyril Carpenter live in the surrounding country at the present time.
· Great Aunt Nancy Carpenter married William Powell, going to Illinois,
where he became quite wealthy in farming and stock raising.
· Great Aunt Lucy Carpenter married Middleton Halloway and moved to Kentucky
I visited Middleton Halloway at Whitley City, Kentucky, in 1895. He was
Postmaster at that place. He had no family by my great aunt Lucy, and at her
death had married again.
· Great Aunt Deborah (Debby) Carpenter married Corneilius Mitchel Frogge. He
was known by either nameMitch or Neil Frogge. He owned a farm, in the
Wolf River Valley Settlement, which is still in the possession of his
grandchildren. He moved out to Morgan County with his Father-in-law, great
Grandfather Carpenter, settling a farm on White Oak Creek, a short distance
from his Father-in-laws place, (The farm now owned by Wash Mathews). He
lived there about six years, then moved back to his Wolf River farms,
growing a large pond of Frogges, as we will take up a little later.
Returning now to Great Grandfather Rev. Timothy Carpenter. He sold his Wolf
River farm to his son Consider (my Grandfather), and took up a Government
Grant of land of 1,000 acres, lying on White Oak Creek, now known as the
Schenck Place, and within a short distance of his son-in-law Frogges farm,
as we have just stated, whose farm was a part of my Great Grandfathers 1,000
acre tract.
Great Grandfather built a house under or just at the edge of a cliff on
White Oak Creek. Under this cliff, and further back from the dwelling, there
was a flowing spring of delightfully cold water, where they kept their dairy
products and cooled their watermelons in the summer time.
Directly across the road that ran in front of the house, and not more than a
hundred feet from his dwelling, he constructed a Lumber and Grist Mill for
grinding corn. He built a dam across the stream for power. The dam was built
of split pine logs, fastened to the framing by means of wooden pins. There
was not an iron nail in the building. The same being true of his dwelling
house, which consisted of two log pens or houses, with a ten foot porch
between. I cannot remember any windows, though there may have been. Great
Grandfather (Rev. Timothy Carpenter) lived there until he was quite feeble,
when he moved back to my Grandfather Sid Carpenters house in Popular Cove.
He died soon after thus ending the life of a true Pioneer, as well as a
Missionary to the scattered settlers of southern Kentucky, and eastern
Tennessee, where he was widely known and highly respected.
Grandfather Sid Carpenter then moved to the place on White Oak Creek and
lived there until he died. That place was known as the Carpenter Mills,
and was probably the only mill within a radius of twenty five miles around.
A farmer would place a two bushel bag of corn across the back of a horse,
straddle it himself, and spend a full day going to the mill and back. But
time meant very little to the people of those days. The principle thing was
the get some bread in the house. A couple of weeks supply being in that bag.
I wish I might be able to describe a Water Power Saw Mill like that my
Grandfather installed with his grist mill, there on White Oak Creek. It was
what was known as a sash Saw, something like a Cross-cut saw, standing on
its end, held in a frame, the lower end of which was attached to a strong
wooden wheel, which in turn was operated by means of a wooden gear causing
it to rotate in a circular direction, and each time this wheel made a
revolution the saw above was brought down, making a stroke through the log
which was held in place, on a moveable carriage, operated by a cable
attached to a round log pulley, so arranged that each revolution of the
wheel to which the saw was affixed, would push it along, just so far, about
a quarter inch distance, cutting a line through the log, which meant one
board about every ten to fifteen minutes. A slow way, you will say, to get
lumber, but it was better than to saw the boards by hand power, by one man
standing in a pit in the ground, another above, literally sawing off a slice
of a log that was fastened between them, with a cross-cut saw, as you would
cut a stick of wood into today. Well, it indeed was a slow process of
getting lumber, and in consequence there was very little of it used. Many
floors were made of hewed slabs of pine, the farmer using what was called a
broadaxe, with which an experienced Axe man could hew a surface pretty
nearly smooth as if it was planned.
And now to get back to our story, and take up my Great Uncle Neil Frogges
history, who we have stated, was married to Great Aunt Debbie Carpenter,
sister to my Grandfather Sid Carpenter. Their family was prolific, plentiful
and numerous, consisting of fifteen childrensix boys and nine girls,
however six of them died in infancy, only two boys and seven girls reached
maturity. The boys were named Timothy and John W. Frogge. The girls were
Hannah Browne, Elizabeth Turley, Lucy Lane, Cynthia Anne, Deborah Jane,
Rebecky Bosley, and Mary Baskett Frogge, respectively. They married as
follows:
Hannah Browne Frogge married Harrison Williams
Elizabeth Turley Frogge married Simon Shelley
Lucy Lane Frogge married James Crouch
Cynthia Anne married Reverend A.B. Wright
Deborah Jane married Louis Shelley
Rebecka Bosley married Timothy Peters (Brother to Tobias, Clark, and Henry
Peters) with who our family are so well acquainted
Mary Baskett married J.R. McGinnis
The boys married as followsJohn W. married Nancy Wright, sister of his
brother-in-law, Reverend A.B. Wright and Timothy Carpenter Frogge married
Harriet Wilson.
I have mentioned all of these names in full to show you how all of them were
named for relatives of our antecedents, Hannah Browne name of wife of
great grandfather Tim, and Lucy Lane going back to an aunt living in England
(my correction Lucy Lane is Timothy Carpenters mother) before the family
came to America. Also the names of these Aunts and Uncles were given to
generations coming after them.
John W. Frogge of Wolf River, being my Mothers cousin, would make his son
Steve, Dan, and Cyril Frogge, living in Jamestown, Tennessee, second cousins
to myself. Tim Peters and Louis Shelley marrying Neil Frogges daughters
would also be my mothers first cousin. They were both Methodist Preachers.
Louis Shelley was pastor of a church in Louisville, Kentucky when I lived in
that city in 1905, and by way of finishing up our relationship with the
Frogges will say that A.B. Wright, marrying Cynthia A. Frogge, my mothers
first cousin, would make his children Mary J, James, Will D., and Asbury
Wright second cousins to myself.
But now to get back to the Carpenter Family. Great Uncle Tim, John, Dan,
Cyril we have already disposed of, as well as the families of my great aunts
Debby, Lucy, and Nancy, leaving my Grandfather Sid Carpenter yet to be taken
care of. My Grandfather Consider Carpenters family consisted of three boys
and five girls and their history is as follows: Itmothy, Mothers oldest
brother, enlisted in the army of the war between the States and Mexico.
Wounded in action he was returned by boat to Memphis, Tennessee, where he
died. Mary A., oldest daughter, married my Father, Hannah B., second
daughter, married L.P. Galloway, my fathers brother
Rhoda, third daughter, married Amos York, Nancy married Leander Peters, who
enlisted in the Union Army of the Civil War, and was killed in the Battle of
Stone Rive at Murphreysboro, Tennessee.
George Y., second son, enlisted in the Union Army, along with his
brother-in-law, Peters, was killed by Guerillas (home guards so called)
while visiting his home on furlough John, the youngest son, married Nancy
Wright, sister of his brother George Carpenters wife, Eliza Wright
Jane, youngest sister of my mothers, married Jasper Campbell, who enlisted
in the Rebel Army and fought through several engagements without getting
wounded. John Carpenter later also enlisted in the Rebel Army thereby
dividing the family equally in the war of the Rebellion, one brother and one
brother-in-law fighting with the forces of the north, and one with the
Southern Forces.
Uncle John Carpenters wife, Nancy, died at the birth of their daughter, who
was also named Nancy, and who was raised by her Aunt Freely Wright, and her
bachelor uncle, James Wright. John Carpenter, with his brother-in-law
Campbell, after the Civil War settled in Russellville, Kentucky. My uncle
John married again, bought a farm and raised a family. Some of the members
living there until the present time.
Aunt Nancy Carpenter, fourth daughter of my Grandfather, married Leander
Peters, who as we have already stated was killed in the battle of Stone
River. They had one son named Wesley Peters, who on growing up, married
Sophronia York. They were both first cousins to myself, but not related to
each other, being on opposite sides of our family tree. Aunt Nancy, after
the death of her husband Peters, married A.R. Lewallen. To whom were born
six boys and three girls, their names were John, Horace, Orlando, Kingsley,
Hollie, and Herman. The girls were named Linnie, Anna, and Lurie. I do not
know who the boys married, as they married mostly outside of the community.
Linnie married Worcester Peters, Annie married John B. York, another first
cousin but unrelated to each other, and Lurie married Will Davis. All these
fellows were boys of the neighborhood. There are numerous cousins,
grandchildren of my Aunt Nancy, but I will not try to carry the relationship
further than first cousins, as I would be unable to name very many of them.
My mothers youngest sister Jane Carpenter, as we stated earlier, married
and lived in Russellville, Kentucky. Had four children, three boys and one
girl, the names were Alonza, Marion, Sam and Cordelia, but I know very
little of their families.
Family names of Hannah and Timothy are common in my family. My Aunt Hannah
Galloway had the full name of her Grandmother Hannah Browne of Boston,
wife of the pioneer Grandfather Tim, born around the year 1775. Also every
generation following had a Timothygreat Grandfather being Timothy the first
His eldest son, brother of my grandfather Sid Carpenter, was Timothy the
second. My mothers oldest brother, who died in the Mexican War with the
United States, was Timothy the third, and my oldest brother would make
Timothy the 4th, and my nephews Timothy Young and Timothy Hall would be
Timothy the fifth, from my great grandfather Timothy Carpenter of Salem,
Massachusetts.
-------Original Message-------
From: Vicki Held
Date: 1/5/2014 1:12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter, Tabor, Snow, Fenton, Mosher,Brown - 1800
New England, New York
-------Original Message-------
From: Vicki Held
Date: 1/5/2014 1:03:03 PM
To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com; Carpenter-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter, Tabor, Snow, Fenton, Mosher,Brown - 1800
New England, New York
[CARPENTER] Carpenter, Tabor, Snow, Fenton, Mosher,Brown - 1800 New England
New York Good morning and Happy New Year to the list.
I hope to find a New England connection between Rev. Timothy Carpenter and
Hannah Brown(e), his wife, who came to the Carolinas, then into TN about
1800 and the following associated families: Brown, Tabor, Snow, Fenton, And
Mosher. The latter two may also have origins in the New York area.
Is anyone studying migration patterns out of New England into the South?
Thank you for your time.
Dusti