Hello Jane,
Per
Ancestry.com the T. B. S. "Captain Cook" departed Glasgow on 17 June
1958 bound for Wellington in New Zealand. On page 3 of the passenger list is
...
Ticket Number 58070
Carpenter, Mr. Arthur R. born 15.10.20
Mrs. Margaret born 27.7.25
Mr. Garry born 25.6.43
Last address: 5 East Stour Farm Birling Rd. Ashford, Kent (England)
Occupation: Lorry Driver
Ticket Number 58071
Carpenter, Mr. Garth 11.2.40
Last address: 20 Sloane Gdns. London S.W.1.
Occupation: Clerk
I assume the two Carpenters (different ticket numbers) are not related.
Full citation would be:
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr Arthur R Carpenter
Gender: Male
Departure Date: 17 Jun 1958
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: Wellington, New Zealand
Ship Name: Captain Cook
Search Ship Database:
Shipping line: Ministry Of Transport
Master: C Ponteons
Source Citation: Class: BT26.
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 [database on-line].
Provo, UT, USA:
Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
Original data:
Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors:
Outwards Passenger Lists. BT27. Records of the Commercial, Companies,
Labour, Railways and Statistics Departments. Records of the Board of Trade
and of successor and related bodies. The National Archives, Kew, Richmond,
Surrey, England.
BUT ... I also found the two following. Probably not related.
A)
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Arthur R Carpenter (b. 13.2.12 & listed as a telephone lineman)
Gender: Male
Departure Date: 4 Mar 1958
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Auckland, New Zealand
Ship Name: Southern Cross
Shipping line: Shaw Savill and Albion Company Limited
Master: Renphisley
He has his wife Evelyn D. born 4.6.15 with him. They are from 17 Hornfair
Road, Charlton, S.E.7
No other Carpenters aboard.
B)
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr Arthur R Carpenter (noted as a lineman)
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1921
Departure Date: 16 Mar 1951
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Wellington, New Zealand
Ship Name: Mataroa
Shipping line: Shaw Savill Line
Official Number: 144814
Master: R G James
He has his wife, Daisy E. age 28 with him. They are from 17 Hornfair Road,
Charlton, S.E.7
No other Carpenters aboard.
..............
In addition I found ...
1) 1978
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Garry Roger Paul Carpenter
Electoral Year: 1978
District: Wanganui
Region or Province: Manawatu-Wanganui
The image related to the above shows four Carpenters of which two are at the
same address. They are:
Carpenter, Garry Roger Paul 41 Webb Road, Co Director
Carpenter, Valerie Irene 41 Webb Road, Housewife
2) 1978
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Garry Roger P Carpenter
Electoral Year: 1978
District: Island Bay
Region or Province: Wellington
The image related to the above shows twelve Carpenters of which two are at
the same address. They are:
Carpenter, Garry Roger P 98 Severn Street, salesman
Carpenter, Valerie Irene 98 Severn Street, Secretary
3) 1978
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Garry Roger P Carpenter
Electoral Year: 1978
District: Hamilton West
Region or Province: Waikato
The image related to the above shows five Carpenters of which three are at
the same address. They are:
Carpenter, Garry Roger P 2 Awatere Avenue, Salesman
Carpenter, Janet Heather 2 Awatere Avenue, Housewife
Carpenter (NEE Coupen), Janet Heather 2 Awatere Avenue, Hswf
4) 1981
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Garry Roger P Carpenter
Electoral Year: 1981
District: Hamilton West
Region or Province: Waikato
The image related to the above shows five Carpenters of which two are at the
same address. They are:
Carpenter, Garry Roger P 54 Kowhai Street, Salesman
Carpenter, Janet Heather 54 Kowhai Street, Housewife
While there are a few others from 1969 and 1972, I figured you would want
the more current ones. Note: If I use just Gary or Garry, I get much more.
..............
5) 1978
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Arthur Roger Carpenter
Electoral Year: 1978
District: Manurewa
Region or Province: Auckland
The image related to the above shows five Carpenters of which two are at the
same address. They are:
Carpenter, Arthur Roger 14 Leaver Place, Manager
Carpenter, Margaret Evelyn 14 Leaver Place, Packer
6) 1981
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Arthur Roger Carpenter
Electoral Year: 1981
District: Manurewa
Region or Province: Auckland
The image related to the above shows three Carpenters of which two are at
the same address. They are:
Carpenter, Arthur Roger 14 Leaver Place, Manager
Carpenter, Margaret Evelyn 14 Leaver Place, Packer
....................
MARRIAGE
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Margaret E R Dodd
Spouse Surname: Carpenter
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1942
Registration district: Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 4266
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 [database on-line].
Provo, UT, USA:
Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration
Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. © Crown copyright.
Published by permission of the Controller of HMSO and the Office for
National Statistics. You must not copy on, transfer or reproduce records
without the prior permission of ONS. Indexes created by the General Register
Office, in London, England.
This matches ...
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Arthur R Carpenter
Spouse Surname: Dodd
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1942
Registration district: Ashford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 4266
..........................
BIRTH
1)
England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Margaret E R Dodd
Mother's Maiden Surname: Sawyer
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration district: E Ashford
Inferred County: Surrey, Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1572
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 [database on-line].
Provo, UT, USA:
Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.
Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration
Indexes. London, England: General Register Office.
© Crown copyright. Published by permission of the Controller of HMSO and the
Office for National Statistics. You must not copy on, transfer, or reproduce
records without the prior permission of ONS. Indexes created by the General
Register Office, in London, England.
2)
No close match found for Arthur Roger Carpenter born in Oct 1920.
3)
England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Garry R P Carpenter
Mother's Maiden Surname: Dodd
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1943
Registration district: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Surrey, Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2088
I hope that this information helps.
John R. Carpenter
Carpenter Cousins Project
http://carpentercousins.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Taylor via
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 12:09 AM
To: CARPENTER(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CARPENTER] Arthur Roger CARPENTER and family
Hi,
I am new to this list
My family members, Arthur Roger CARPENTER, his wife Margaret Evelyn Rosa
CARPENTER (nee DODD) and son Garry Roger Paul CARPENTER emigrated to New
Zealand in 1951. The embarked on the 'James Cook' in Glasgow sailing to
Wellington. I believe Margaret died in 1982 but I have no information about
Arthur Roger or his son.
Any help, no matter how small, would be most welcome.
Thanks in anticipation.
Jane in Redcar, UK
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