I consider you the expert interpreter of these various sources:
so correct me if my conclusions are wrong:
Margaret Sutton and Esther (m. Richard Bowen) were sisters,
and their parents were John and Elizabeth (Skarlett) Sutton.
The above Margaret Sutton, sister of Esther, dau. of John and
Elizabeth Skarlett, married Joesph Carpenter, re: this thread.
JD
--- On Fri, 12/19/08, GeneZub(a)aol.com <GeneZub(a)aol.com> wrote:
From: GeneZub(a)aol.com <GeneZub(a)aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Sutton Line, John Sutton's dau. Margaret m. Joseph Carpenter
25 Nov
To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 12:15 PM
Jim wrote:
Apparently, English parish records indicate John Sutton was
married and with
children who were not siblings of Margaret. Work needs to
be done on the
Sutton line.
JD
http://www.genealogy.theroyfamily.com/p4473.htm
Esther Sutton
Female, #4473
?????Esther Sutton was the daughter of John Sutton and
Elizabeth Skarlette.1
Esther Sutton immigrated on 10 August 1638 to Boston,
Suffolk County,
Massachusetts.1 On 4 March 1656 in Rehoboth, Bristol
County, Massachusetts, Esther
married Richard Bowen, son of Richard Bowen.2 Esther
Sutton was buried on 6
November 1688 in Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts.2
Children of Esther Sutton and Richard Bowen
? Sarah Bowen1
? Richard Bowen1
? Hester Bowen1 (20 Apr 1660 - )
? Mary Bowen1 (5 Oct 1666 - )
Citations
1. Riley, Henry, letter. 27 March 1994, to Mullins,
Jane. Personal
Genealogical Collection; RR1, Box 308, Paw Paw, West
Virginia.
2. Bowen, Richard LaBaron Jr.. "The Ancestry,
Wives, and Children of
Richard Bowen of Weymouth and Rehoboth,
Massachusetts", The American Genealogist
volume 76, number 4 (October 2001).
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My reply:
Esther (Sutton) Bowen IS considered a sibling of Margaret
(Sutton)
Carpenter's (see, for example, Howard Dakin French,
comp., "Sutton Family," _The New
England Historical and Genealogical Register_ 91(1937):64
<
http://www.newenglandancestors.org/database_search/nehgsr.asp?vol=91&...
age>; Mary Lovering Holman, _Ancestry of Colonel John
Harrington Stevens and
His Wife Frances Helen Miller_, vol. 1 [1948], 269-70).
Esther's date of
arrival, identical to that attributed to the _Diligent_, is
based on the
plausible assumption that she was one (and Margaret
another) of the four (perhaps
more) unnamed children said by Daniel Cushing--a
contemporary and Hingham
neighbor of John Sutton's--to have come on that ship
with Sutton and his wife
(also unnamed). Cushing's record of the _Diligent_
passengers, written in
1682, is the only one extant. Of the Sutton passengers,
it identifies by name
only the head of the family, John Sutton. Charles E.
Banks's reconstruction of
the _Diligent_ passenger list names John Sutton, Mrs.
Elizabeth Sutton, and
children Hannah, John, Nathaniel, and Elizabeth. These,
however, were the
wife and four of the children of John2 Sutton, whom Banks
had mistaken for
John1. There is thus no reason to suppose that John1
Sutton's wife's name was
Elizabeth.
John and Elizabeth (Skarlett) Sutton were probably the
parents of Margaret
and John, both baptized at Norwich in the early 1630s.
That the latter's
baptism occurred in 1631[/2?], however, disqualifies him
as John2 Sutton of
Scituate, Mass., son of John1 Sutton of Hingham and
Rehoboth. John2's will, dated
in 1691, describes him as about 70, implying a birth year
of about 1621.
The only "English parish records" of which
I'm aware are those pertaining to
the marriage of the aforementioned John Sutton and
Elizabeth Skarlett and
the baptisms of their two children. But, as above, they
simply don't qualify
as the _Diligent_ passengers. As to the citation of
Richard LeBaron Bowen
Jr.'s 2001 TAG article on the immigrant Richard Bowen
and his family, it names
Richard2's first wife as Esther Sutton but does not
identify her parentage.
And the other citation is of a 1994 letter whose
reliability is (especially in
light of the above) dubious.
There's evidence and then there are unsupported
pronouncements; one must
distinguish between the two, evaluate the reliability of
sources, and be alert
to evidence that conflicts with our hypothesis.
Gene Z.