Dear Vicki,
ancestry.com has quite a few New York Quaker records & sources listed,
including Purchase Monthly Meeting. The description of the records is a
little daunting--- apparently the meeting permitted their records to be kept
at a library where they were transcribed, with some of the writing being
indecipherable. There seemed to be acknowledgments of some people being
dismissed for lack of attendance or marrying "out of meeting" but there were
abbreviations with which I was not familiar. I do know that members were
sometimes removed from membership and then later restored.
I paged trough Cyndislist for some specific links, & found this one in
particular might assist you
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/topic/quaker/
Good luck with all your searches,
Pat Hobson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki Held" <vheld(a)utma.com>
To: <CARPENTER(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:54 PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenter Researchers I need your help!
Carpenter Researchers I need your help!
I have applied for the recognition of my 4th great-grandfather James
Carpenter by the DAR for his service in the Revolutionary War, and they are
asking for one more piece of information that I am unsure of how to obtain
and wondered if my fellow Carpenters could help me. Because he was a Quaker
they want to see if he had been disowned for his service before proceeding
with the application. (See below for the DAR request and general family
information). I was able to send lineage information that documents my
families connection that the DAR finds acceptable. If anyone has studied
these records from the Purchase Monthly Meetings and can tell me how to find
records that would indicated James Carpenter, son of Benedict was
reprimanded for participating in the war or where I could find more
information I would be appreciative. It appears that James had a brother
Elijah who also served in the Rev. War, and a brother Asa who served in the
"French Canadian War". So while the family was of the Friends they also
seemed to serve in defense of this country.
DAR request: " Upon review, we find your lineage well documented, but have
concerns about the service you wish to assign to James Carpenter. Daniel
Hoogland Carpenter's History and genealogy of the Carpenter Family in
America (1901) pp. 76-7 and 115-116, makes it clear that not only James
belonged to the Purchase Monthly Meeting of Quakers late in life, but also
was born into the a family that was also associated with that meeting. The
Quakers were a well known pacifist sect and were known to disown men who
enlisted in the armed services. In consequence of these facts, we need more
definite evidence that James Carpenter who served in the 4th Regiment of
militia in Westchester County was the same individual who was born into the
Purchase Monthly Meeting in 1754. If he insured any penalties from the
meeting, they are likely to be recorded in the meeting minutes."
Note: Items that I did send them to prove he was in the services and was
from Westchester County all his life were: 1790 Census from Harrison,
Westchester County, 1800 census, 1810 census, roster of state troops for the
4th regiment of Westchester County from New York in the Revolution, pages
from Daniel Hoogland Carpenter's book detailing lineage, two items of
military service showing that James Carpenter of the 4th Regiment was sick
at camp on the muster roll from June 28 to October 9th 1775. The DAR is not
arguing with the materials I sent - only that since he was a Quaker did I
have any documentation that he was reprimanded for his service. Can anyone
help me with this?
Thanks,
Vicki Carpenter Held
My Carpenter family line is:
(Joseph b. abt. 1635 and Hannah Carpenter b. 1640) > William b. 1666 >
Benedict b. 1717> James b. 1754 Rev. War > Enoch b. 1786 >
David Lane Carpenter b. 1824 Civil War Vet > James Enoch Carpenter b. 1852 >
Harry Lane Carpenter b. 1885 > William Lane Carpenter b.1930 > Vicki Ellen
Carpenter Held (living)
Benedict and Hannah Haviland had the following children:
Marriage 1 Married: ABT 1737 in Rye, Westchester, NY
Children
1. Asa Carpenter b: OCT 1738 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY
2. Benedict Carpenter b: 20 AUG 1740 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY
3. Daniel Carpenter b: 23 SEP 1742 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY
Asa CARPENTER- was born about 1738 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY. He died
before 1761 in NY. Number 83 in the Carpenter Family in America, 1901 book:
Died due to a fever contacted in the French-Canadian War ( French and Indian
Wars). Asa was a farmer at White Plains, Westchester County, NY. DEATH:
During his term of service in the French and Canadian was he was seized with
a fever and died from the effects of it.
Benedict Carpenter Marriage 2 Abigail Horton 1745 in Westchester County, NY
Children
1. Joseph Carpenter b: 16 JAN 1746/47 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY
2. Jonathan Carpenter b: 7 SEP 1749 . In the Revolutionary War he was a
Loyalist and his estate was confiscated.
3. Elijah Carpenter b: 22 JAN 1750/51 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY .
As a Patriot, he loaned money to New York State and served in the
Revolutionary War in the 1st. Regiment of Orange County, New York Militia.
4. James Carpenter b: 19 SEP 1754 d: 21 Apr 1812 (father to Enoch) Patriot
He was a Patriot and served in the 4th Regiment, Westchester Co., NY Militia
5. Abel Carpenter b: 12 FEB 1757 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY
6. Samuel Carpenter b: 10 JUN 1759 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY
7. Hannah Carpenter b: 9 DEC 1764 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY
8. Abigail Carpenter b: 9 DEC 1764 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY
Marriage 3 Abigail Ferris .Married: 15 DEC 1767 in Westchester County, NY
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