Hi, Gene Z.
By all means, correct the record. In my opinion, you are
the expert here on the Carpenters/and Skinners, inasmuch as
you know the records (which i do not, only using secondary
sources: trying to consult primary).
I will correct your corrections in my AT, and much appreciate
you help. I hope you do not mind my peristence with the
marriage of Hannah Carpenter to Thomas Skinner as it seemed
so accepted in the online sources, especially on the Skinner
side: by the way, you might, if you can, advise the Skinners
of your Carpenters as it does not appear they have any of
the Carpenter ancestors prior to Hannah in their records.
Jim D
--- On Sat, 10/4/08, GeneZub(a)aol.com <GeneZub(a)aol.com> wrote:
From: GeneZub(a)aol.com <GeneZub(a)aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Hannah Carpenter, b. 21 Jan 1671, dau. of Joseph
To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 9:32 AM
Jim D. wrote:
Hi, Carpenters, here is immediate children of Thomas
Skinner,
and Hannah Carpenter, my ancestors, with a few descendants
Jim D
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860 861
Thomas Skinner_____________________Hannah Carpenter
b.3 Nov 1668, Malden,Middlesex,MA
b.21Jan1672,Swansea,Bristol, MA
married: 16 May 1694, Malden, Middlesex, MA
d. about 1750, Norton, Bristol,MA d.aft
1710,P,Norton,Bristol, MA
Thomas SKINNER
? Birth: 3 NOV 1668, Malden,Middlesex,MA
? Death: ABT 1750, Norton,Bristol,MA
? Reference: 10135
Father: Thomas SKINNER
Mother: Mary PRATT
Family 1: Hannah CARPENTER
? Marriage: 16 MAY 1694, Malden,Middlesex,MA
1. Thomas SKINNER
2. Solomon SKINNER
3. Joseph SKINNER
4. Hannah SKINNER
5. Esther SKINNER
6. Mary SKINNER
7. Samuel SKINNER
8. Benjamin SKINNER
Hannah CARPENTER
? Birth: 21 JAN 1672, Swansea,Bristol,MA
? Death: AFT 1710, P,Norton,Bristol,MA
? Reference: 10144
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Jim, I hope you won't mind my correcting some of the
foregoing data (the
question marks preceding several of the items suggest
appropriate tentativeness
on your part):
Although some but not all secondary sources have Thomas
Skinner's birth date
as 3 November 1668, the published volume of Malden vital
records presents
only the month and year, with a blank space where the day
would ordinarily be.
The day is therefore uncertain and should be accompanied by
a question mark.
No record has been found of Thomas Skinner and Hannah
Carpenter's marriage
or intentions, at Malden or elsewhere. The 16 May 1694
marriage date appears
occasionally online but is never accompanied by a source
citation or any kind
of support. The most responsible approximation is
"by 1695," based on the
birth date, 30 May 1695, of their first child, Thomas.
There is, moreover, no
reason to think that they married at Malden, where Thomas
was born and
raised. He had probably moved to Wrentham or Norton by
the time of his marriage.
(Clark's history of Norton says he never lived at
Wrentham but simply
attended church there while living at Norton [the part in
present-day Mansfield],
then adjacent to Wrentham.) If their marriage was true to
custom, it
probably occurred at the bride's home of Swansea,
where Hannah's sister Esther had
married in 1687. Their parents had died at Swansea when
Hannah and Esther
were quite young, but their elder brothers, Joseph and
Benjamin, had married
and established themselves there by the time their sisters
married.
Thomas Skinner died between 29 June 1757 (will, in 89th
yr.) and 19 May 1758
(probate). The year 1750 originated as a probate-date
misprint in Clark's
history of Norton.
Hannah Carpenter's original Swansea birth record
appears with the date 21
1st month 1671. The first month of the year prior to 1752
was not January but
March. But since the first day of the year was typically
25 March, it is
uncertain whether 1671 should be interpreted as 1670/1 or
1671/2. It is
therefore best to present the date as it appears in its
original form, with the
correct, named month in brackets: 21 1st mo. [March] 1671.
In that Hannah is named in her husband's will (her care
is left to their son
Benjamin), she died after 29 June 1757, probably at
Norton.
For source citations and more details, see page 4 of my
revised sketch of
Hannah's father, Joseph3 Carpenter, and his family,
online at
<
http://members.cox.net/jrcrin001/Joseph3-Rehoboth&Swansea.pdf>.
If you are revisiting this or
any related Carpenter sketch (links online at
<
http://members.cox.net/jrcrin001/carplink.htm>)
after an interval of less than a few weeks, you should
click on your browser's Refresh button to be certain
that you're viewing the
current version, rather than an obsolete one, which may be
stored in a local
cache. AOL users should also depress the Ctrl key when
clicking on the Refresh
button. Updated sketches have a revision date near the
top of the first
page.
Gene Z.
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