I enjoy very much the Carpenter related genealogical information. One of my
great grandmothers is a Carpenter, married a Bamberg.
I have found the commentary on all fronts interesting. I would appreciate
information on your countries at the given times so that I may celebrate
with you. God has blessed these last four hundred plus years in ways not
previously known. They may be coming to a close and we should celebrate
them for as long as possible. Some of my ancestors came here for religious
convictions (French Hugenots escaping French Revolution, Scots
Presbyterians escaping Anglican persecutors, Lutherans for unfound so far
reasons, Virginia Company men who later brought wives, among many others),
some for a way to survive. I have lived in a time of relative peace but
that too may be ending. Only time will tell. Hope all who are U. S.
citizens had a joyful 4th. Hope all others will share their independence
day celebrations too. Blessings
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:05 PM, <carpenter-request(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America - 4th of July
(Michael A. Lewis)
2. Re: Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America - 4thof July
(Michael A. Lewis)
3. Re: Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America -4thof July
(Curtis)
4. Re: Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America - 4thof
July
(George Carpenter)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 18:36:04 -0700
From: "Michael A. Lewis" <malewis(a)calcentral.com>
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America -
4th of July
To: John R Carpenter <jrcrin001(a)cox.net>, Gail McArthur
<gailmay(a)shaw.ca>, George Carpenter via <
carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <B91DB8CD-67B5-4601-8A3C-5341DA826148(a)calcentral.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Thank you Gail, for this perspective.
This is an international discussion list about our ancestors from
all over the world, and their own traditions, cultures and ways of life.
I prefer to celebrate all the countries and cultures of our proud
ancestries, not just the last one in the line.
Michael A. Lewis, PhD
18th generation lineal male descendant of Lewes ap John of
Carmarthen, Wales
12th generation descendant of Heinrich Zimmerman of Wattenwil,
Thun, Switzerland
8th generation descendant of Isaac Monkman of Kirby Misperton,
Yorkshire, England
11th generation descendant of Blathazar DeWolf of the Margraviate
of Brandenburg, Selisia, in what is now the Czech Republic.
On Jul 3, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Gail McArthur via wrote:
> I am Canadian - didn't see any Canada Day greetings on this list, and
didn't expect one. Nor do I need a lecture on the history of the U.S., as
I've done considerable research of my own.
>
> Gail McArthur
> Vancouver, Canada,
> Descended from William of Rhode Island and William of Rehoboth
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 18:36:46 -0700
From: "Michael A. Lewis" <malewis(a)calcentral.com>
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America -
4thof July
To: Ian Marr <ian_marr(a)bigpond.net.au>, carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <D01C255D-60B4-4216-B305-6AA1282E2C74(a)calcentral.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
On Jul 3, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Ian Marr via wrote:
> For what it's worth, as an Australian, I agree totally with Gail.
>
> Perhaps next January 26th. I should provide a lecture to all on
Australian
> history.
>
> Regards,
> Ian MARR
> at 38? 24' 01.299" S by 142? 34' 11.9094" E; 6m above sea level
>
> This message can be considered to be in the public domain.
>
> The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes:
http://www.ianmarr.net.au/
> Allansford Weather (10 min updates):
http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/
> Family Tree:
http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/
> Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct
answer.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert & Donna Klaesson via
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 11:00 AM
> To: Gail McArthur ; carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America - 4thof
> July
>
> Lighten up, Gail....we have enough trash going aorund these days to fill
> lots of landfills....we certainly don't need to take offence at every
little
> thing!! If we are NOT Canadian, how would we even KNOW about your
> celebrations?Sending love, compassion, tollerance and blessings to you
and
> yours, no matter what 'holiday' we celebrate....we are One, after all.
> Donna Klaesson
>
>
> On Friday, July 3, 2015 7:56 PM, Gail McArthur via
> <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am Canadian - didn't see any Canada Day greetings on this list, and
didn't
> expect one. Nor do I need a lecture on the history of the U.S., as I've
> done considerable research of my own.
>
> Gail McArthur
> Vancouver, Canada,
> Descended from William of Rhode Island and William of Rehoboth
>
> On 2015-07-03, at 11:21 AM, John R Carpenter via wrote:
>
>> Hello List,
>>
>> For 238 years we Americans have celebrate the birth of the United
States.
>>
>> Some of us have Carpenter/Zimmermans who fought for Independence and
some
>> who were Loyalists who supported King George. A few of s have both!
Today
>> we are united by freedom and by our honored surnames.
>>
>> In America, legal immigrants becoming citizens, those who serve in the
>> armed forces or in community service such a firemen, police and in
>> governmental service swear or affirm an oath that has the following key
>> words ...
>>
>> To protect and defend the Constitution of United States of America.
>>
>> For too many politicians, these words have become nothing but lip
service.
>>
>> For this 4th of July weekend, I would like to challenge all Americans to
>> remember why our ancestors came here. There was many reasons. Some came
to
>> practice their religion, some for economic reasons, some to be free and
>> others just for a better life for their children and descendants. Let
>> everyone know why you celebrate the 4th of July.
>>
>> May We the People stand strong actively to protect and defend the
>> Constitution. Today, tomorrow and forever.
>>
>> God Bless you all!
>>
>> Have a Safe & Happy Fourth of July!
>>
>> John R. Carpenter
>> Carpenter Cousins Project
>>
http://carpentercousins.com
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 20:57:36 -0500
From: "Curtis" <anglers(a)bullshoals.net>
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America
-4thof July
To: "Michael A. Lewis" <malewis(a)calcentral.com>,
<carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <ED44BF4A19F244ABA16CF4E681F3725F@PatHP>
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reply-type=original
That would be great. I would personally like to know more abt Australia
Michael..
Regards,
Curtis
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael A. Lewis via
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 8:36 PM
To: Ian Marr ; carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America -4thof
July
On Jul 3, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Ian Marr via wrote:
> For what it's worth, as an Australian, I agree totally with Gail.
>
> Perhaps next January 26th. I should provide a lecture to all on
Australian
> history.
>
> Regards,
> Ian MARR
> at 38? 24' 01.299" S by 142? 34' 11.9094" E; 6m above sea level
>
> This message can be considered to be in the public domain.
>
> The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes:
http://www.ianmarr.net.au/
> Allansford Weather (10 min updates):
http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/
> Family Tree:
http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/
> Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct
> answer.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert & Donna Klaesson via
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 11:00 AM
> To: Gail McArthur ; carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America - 4thof
> July
>
> Lighten up, Gail....we have enough trash going aorund these days to fill
> lots of landfills....we certainly don't need to take offence at every
> little
> thing!! If we are NOT Canadian, how would we even KNOW about your
> celebrations?Sending love, compassion, tollerance and blessings to you
and
> yours, no matter what 'holiday' we celebrate....we are One, after all.
> Donna Klaesson
>
>
> On Friday, July 3, 2015 7:56 PM, Gail McArthur via
> <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am Canadian - didn't see any Canada Day greetings on this list, and
> didn't
> expect one. Nor do I need a lecture on the history of the U.S., as I've
> done considerable research of my own.
>
> Gail McArthur
> Vancouver, Canada,
> Descended from William of Rhode Island and William of Rehoboth
>
> On 2015-07-03, at 11:21 AM, John R Carpenter via wrote:
>
>> Hello List,
>>
>> For 238 years we Americans have celebrate the birth of the United
States.
>>
>> Some of us have Carpenter/Zimmermans who fought for Independence and
some
>> who were Loyalists who supported King George. A few of s have both!
Today
>> we are united by freedom and by our honored surnames.
>>
>> In America, legal immigrants becoming citizens, those who serve in the
>> armed forces or in community service such a firemen, police and in
>> governmental service swear or affirm an oath that has the following key
>> words ...
>>
>> To protect and defend the Constitution of United States of America.
>>
>> For too many politicians, these words have become nothing but lip
>> service.
>>
>> For this 4th of July weekend, I would like to challenge all Americans to
>> remember why our ancestors came here. There was many reasons. Some came
>> to
>> practice their religion, some for economic reasons, some to be free and
>> others just for a better life for their children and descendants. Let
>> everyone know why you celebrate the 4th of July.
>>
>> May We the People stand strong actively to protect and defend the
>> Constitution. Today, tomorrow and forever.
>>
>> God Bless you all!
>>
>> Have a Safe & Happy Fourth of July!
>>
>> John R. Carpenter
>> Carpenter Cousins Project
>>
http://carpentercousins.com
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 22:05:11 -0400
From: George Carpenter <carpgnl2(a)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America -
4thof July
To: Ian Marr <ian_marr(a)bigpond.net.au>, carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
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Ian and Gail,
Next time you have your Nation Day anniversary, please share a few
thoughts with us. That's probably more interesting and useful than
disgruntleness over someone else's pride over their celebration, especially
when our three countries have so much historical connection.
George Carpenter
Michigan, USA
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Ian Marr via <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
>For what it's worth, as an Australian, I agree totally with Gail.
>
>Perhaps next January 26th. I should provide a lecture to all on Australian
>history.
>
>Regards,
>Ian MARR
>at 38? 24' 01.299" S by 142? 34' 11.9094" E; 6m above sea level
>
>This message can be considered to be in the public domain.
>
>The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes:
http://www.ianmarr.net.au/
>Allansford Weather (10 min updates):
http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/
>Family Tree:
http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/
>Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct
answer.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert & Donna Klaesson via
>Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 11:00 AM
>To: Gail McArthur ; carpenter(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter/Zimmermans who came to America - 4thof
>July
>
>Lighten up, Gail....we have enough trash going aorund these days to fill
>lots of landfills....we certainly don't need to take offence at every
little
>thing!! If we are NOT Canadian, how would we even KNOW about your
>celebrations?Sending love, compassion, tollerance and blessings to you and
>yours, no matter what 'holiday' we celebrate....we are One, after all.
>Donna Klaesson
>
>
> On Friday, July 3, 2015 7:56 PM, Gail McArthur via
><carpenter(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
>
>
>I am Canadian - didn't see any Canada Day greetings on this list, and
didn't
>expect one. Nor do I need a lecture on the history of the U.S., as I've
>done considerable research of my own.
>
>Gail McArthur
>Vancouver, Canada,
>Descended from William of Rhode Island and William of Rehoboth
>
>On 2015-07-03, at 11:21 AM, John R Carpenter via wrote:
>
>> Hello List,
>>
>> For 238 years we Americans have celebrate the birth of the United
States.
>>
>> Some of us have Carpenter/Zimmermans who fought for Independence and
some
>> who were Loyalists who supported King George. A few of s have both!
Today
>> we are united by freedom and by our honored surnames.
>>
>> In America, legal immigrants becoming citizens, those who serve in the
>> armed forces or in community service such a firemen, police and in
>> governmental service swear or affirm an oath that has the following key
>> words ...
>>
>> To protect and defend the Constitution of United States of America.
>>
>> For too many politicians, these words have become nothing but lip
service.
>>
>> For this 4th of July weekend, I would like to challenge all Americans to
>> remember why our ancestors came here. There was many reasons. Some came
to
>> practice their religion, some for economic reasons, some to be free and
>> others just for a better life for their children and descendants. Let
>> everyone know why you celebrate the 4th of July.
>>
>> May We the People stand strong actively to protect and defend the
>> Constitution. Today, tomorrow and forever.
>>
>> God Bless you all!
>>
>> Have a Safe & Happy Fourth of July!
>>
>> John R. Carpenter
>> Carpenter Cousins Project
>>
http://carpentercousins.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------
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