This report contains lineage prior to John Carpenter of 1300 who is
reported to be the first person in England having the Carpenter surname in
Amos Bugbee Carpenter's genealogy book published in 1898.
The surname Carpenter is derived from the Anglo-French word Le'
Charpentier which originally referred to the persons trade.
With a growing population second names became more common, such as
son or daughter of the father's name or of the persons trade or
occupation. Thus, a man named William who was a carpenter by trade
became William Le' Charpentier who we find born about 1098 AD of
Melun, Seine-et-Marne in France. The second or additional name
eventually became hereditary as a surname. One of the sons of William
went to the area of Suffolk, England and was involved in the English
Channel trade. His name was Godwin or Godefroid, he was born about
1120 AD. We believe his son was Ralph Carpenter born about 1145 of
Yorkshire, England who had son Ailric Carpenter who was born about
1166 in Norfolk, England. Ailric had several sons, one of which went to
Ireland and another who went back to France.
We think this son who returned to france was Elgan Carpenter, born
about 1202 in Oxford, England. He had a son named Siger who was born
1219 of Selles Cambrai, Du Nord, France. Siger's son, Jean Le' Carpentier
who was born about 1250 became a Lord of Daniel of Du Nord, France.
One of Jean's sons, Maurice, born about 1280 Yipres, West
Vlaanderen, France, which is now Beligium, moved back to England where
his younger son Jean Le Carpentier born about 1303-1305 in de Grand
Pont, Du Nord, France, became the John Carpenter who served in the
English parliment in 1323 and who is mentioned as the first with the
surname Carpenter to appear in Amos Bugbee Carpenter's book.
William CARPENTER, born about 1070 at Melun, Seine-et-Marne, France.
Source: William the Carpenter born about 1098 of Melun, Seine-Et--Marne,
France. [Guillaume] - Film #: 170395, Page #: 134, Ordinance #: 4799 (Bap.
11 Feb. 1908 Manti - Pre 1970 ordinances)
Per Raymond George Carpenter, American Genealogist, The Carpenter and
Related Family Association: "My British Genealogy of the New England
Carpenter Family has descent due to our three cross-crosslets Coat of Arms
from Viscount William (Carpenter surname) de Melune, a Norman Knight in the
First Crusade, 1098 A.D., at the siege of Antioch, Syria. He was nicknamed,
Carpenter, from the mighty strokes of his Battle Axe. Great strength was
associated with the carpenter's trade. This family was of Melun,
Seine-et-Oise, France."
If the above is true, then the William Carpenter was not born about 1098 AD
but about 1070 (if he was 28 when he got his nickname). This would explain
the duplicate French record of Marne et Daniel of William, Lord William and
William the Carpenter. IE William the Carpenter (born about 1070 who fought
at Atioch) who had a son named William (born about 1090) and another son,
Godwin, who was of age in Suffolk, England in 1121 AD. Godwin, to be of age
then, would have been over 21 years of age or born about 1100.
This line to Ailric Carpenter is speculation. From Ailric to Maurice
Carpenter is likely. From Maurice up to the 1400s is most probable when the
records become more tangible. The best documentation starts on the "Bevis"
in 1638 and continues onward to our time. Due to the lack of records, and
name changes when titles were given, it is difficult to piece a record
together of the CARPENTER Family in this part of history.
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My sources for above:
John R. Carpenter of La Mesa, CA
DeMott Family hist. web page.
Raymond G. Carpenter, Amer. Genealogist for the Carpenter Family.
C. A. Carpenter/ 1997
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