At the risk of being berated by you,Bruce, I really
think you diminish your excellent messages on
Carpenter genealogy when you go off on a tangent like
this. I joined this list to explore my Carpenter
genealogy not to read messages filled with vitriol
against people or religion. Merely saying that a
specific report or book or author or site contains
errors and stating what they are is enough. Please,
Bruce, stop the name calling and the belittling of
others and count to ten before you hit that send
button.
Now, can you, Bruce, or antbody help me to clear up my
Elizabeth Carpenter's parentage? She married Ebenezer
Walker somewhere..possibly MA since he was b.17 Oct
1749 in Beckett, MA.and fought in the war from there
and they likely married possibly in 1771, before the
war. They lived in Beckett and had children born there
before moving by 1792 to Granville, Washington, NY,
where she gave birth to my great-great-great
grandmother, Lavina or Lovine or Betsy or Elizabeth
Lavina, depending upon which records you believe. She
was a lovely lady who lived to celebrate her 60th
wedding anniversary in 1875 in Chicago. Luckily, I
inherited her scrapbook with the newspaper articles
about it all stating her birthplace and date, etc. The
articles all refer to her as Mrs. Isaac Preston so her
first name is still up for grabs. Her father,
Ebenezer, died in 1820, in Granville. I don't know
when mother, Elizabeth Carpenter-Walker, died. Even if
she lived to this time she would have been close to
70, so I doubt that she remarried. This Elizabeth's
marriage and life has gotten put together with another
Elizabeth Carpenter in other Carpenter family records
so I am hoping that there is another Carpenter
descendant on this list that has some facts to clear
this up.
I am also one of those "other Carpenters".. a
Zimmerman/Carpenter from Switzerland by way of Ger.,
PA, VA, KY, descended from Margaret Carpenter whose
brothers were the Carpenters Station founders. I would
be happy to share information about these ancestors on
my father's side. Did I read a message that there was
a different Carpenter List dealing with these
Carpenters?
Suzee
--- The Carpenters <carpgl(a)ismi.net> wrote:
I'm confused. In what way can they steal it? They
can believe what they
want, and say what they want, but they can't change
reality except for their
own believers. At the risk of sounding foolish, I
don't really get it.
That would be like the Jews 2000 years ago saying
"the Christians are
stealing our history and our beliefs." Well, of
course, the Christians did
take it. I would say they tied into it and made it
their own, too. But
they also left it. The Jews didn't lose their
history and beliefs just
because another group also used them. I don't
really see it as theft. What
am I missing?
George
----- Original Message -----
From: "carpenter" <carp(a)tezukayama-u.ac.jp>
To: <CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 9:30 AM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Mormon thieves
> The Mormons have stolen our Carpenter family
history. Our story is one of
> the great family histories. All the great merchant
families of the Middle
> Ages like the Basings, de Gisors are gone, but we
are still here.
> We had our part in the commercial revolution of
Europe, the Dutch East
India
> Company and the unification of world markets, the
Massachusetts Bay Colony
> and the development of America. The story is
nothing short of
breathtaking.
> We had our part in the building of the modern
world and are still around.
> Yet the Mormons are going to steal it from us.
> Bruce Carpenter
>
>
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