Heavens, I'm beginning to wonder if this discussion is appropriate for the
CARPENTER list service, however, as it pertains to the in-law of a
CARPENTER, I'll continue my discussion.
At this point I think we agree that the parents of HANNAH ALSOP, who married
STEPHEN CARPENTER were THOMAS ALSOP & SUSANNAH BLACKWELL. However,
according to my records this THOMAS ALSOP, according to Riker, was the son
of RICHARD ALSOP, not another THOMAS.
Authority: "The Annals of Newtown in Queens County," by James Riker, Jr,
1852, p. 334-336:
1. Richard Alsop, while yet under age, received a commission in the Newtown
troop of horse. Inheriting the estate of his uncle Wandell, he continued to
reside upon it during life. He d. in October, 1718, a. about 58; but his
widow, Hannah, (who, tradition saith, was a Dutch lady, whom he courted
through an interpreter,) attained her 91st yr. and d. Aug. 23, 1757. Their
ch. were Thomas, Richard (4), John (2), Hannah,, m. Jos. Sackett; Deborah
m. Capt. John Sipkins and Nath'l Hazard; Amy, m. Jona. Wright; Elizabeth, m.
Phineas McIntosh, and Susannah, who m. Nath'l Lawrence. THOMAS, was b. Sep.
7, 1687, and m. Feb. 5, 1708, SUSANNAH dau. of ROBERT BLACKWELL. He served
for some years as a magistrate in Newtown, but subsequently entered into
mercantile persuits in New York, where he d. in Sep. 1743, having the
previous year lost his wife and three daughters. He left ch. Richard,
Robert, THOMAS, Mary, wife of James Way, Lydia, and Sarah, who m. John
Leggett of Westchester. The three sons became Quakers. Robert remained
many years in Newtown; THOMAS located in Hampstead, and Richard, at Oyster
Bay.
Because I am also decended from the Alsops, as well as many other Newtown
families, as are most probably a great many of us who enjoy this Carpenter
list service, I am afraid I may have a mix-up here and thus greatly
appreciative of the opportunity to discuss this with you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Carpenter" <jrcrin001(a)home.com>
To: <CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] GEDCOM - WHOOPS
Susannah Underhill should be Susannah Blackwell.
Sorry about that. I rushed it.
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
John Carpenter wrote:
>
> Dear Betty,
>
> We have 2 Thomas Alsops. The father and the son. The father married
> Hannah Underhill and the son married Susannah Underhill.
>
> The son Thomas was born in 1687 as was the husband of Thomas' younger
> sister Hannah (Thomas Carpenter).
>
> The will you mention is for the son of Thomas Alsop, Thomas Alsop.
>
> I hope this helps explain things.
>
> John R. Carpenter
> La Mesa, CA
>
> Elizabeth V Brady wrote:
> >
> > I am very much enjoying the GEDCOM you sent but have come upon an item
in
my
> > records which may or may not differ from what you sent.
> >
> > In your GEDCOM you show the HANNAH ALSOP, b. Jan. 09, 1690/91, who m.
1708
> > to THOMAS CARPENTER, b. Aug. 16, 1687, to have been the
daughter of
THOMAS
> > ALSOP whose will was dated Sept. 8, 1743 and HANNAH
UNDERHILL.
> >
> > This THOMAS ALSOP in my records was the husband of SUSANNAH BLACKWELL
as
> > stated in "The Annals of Newtown in Queens
County," by James Riker,
Jr,
> > 1852, p. 334-336:
> >
> > 1. Thomas, was b. Sep. 7, 1687, and m. Feb. 5, 1708, Susannah dau.
of
> > Robert Blackwell. He served for some years as a magistrate
in
Newtown, but
> > subsequently entered into mercantile pursuits in New York,
where he d.
in
> > Sep. 1743, having the previous year lost his wife and three
daughters.
He
> > left ch. Richard, Robert, Thomas, Mary, wife of James Way,
Lydia, and
Sarah,
> > who m. John Leggett of Westchester. The three sons became
Quakers.
Robert
> > remained many years in Newtown; Thomas located in
Hampstead, and
Richard, at
> > Oyster Bay.
> >
> > My question is whether you or any other person belonging to this list
> > service might have any other documentation on either of these
marriages.
> >
> > Did THOMAS ALSOP, who died in Sept. of 1743 marry twice, one to
SUSANNAH
> > BLACKWELL and once to HANNAH UNDERHILL or might the HANNAH
ALSOP who
married
> > THOMAS CARPENTER have been the daughter of someone else?
> >
> > Thanks in advance. A great list service!
> >
> > Betty Brady
> >
> > PS. Here's a copy of THOMAS ALSOP's will:
> >
> > Authority - New York City Wills, 1730-44, page 127:
> > In the name of God, Amen. I, THOMAS ALSOP, of New York, merchant,
being
> > sick and weak. All my debts are to be paid, and I give
power to my
> > executors to sell my house and lot in New York, bounded west by a lot
of
> > land belonging to the heirs of one Quick, east by a lot of
land of
Bergerow,
> > southerly upon the street in the Vly. I leave to my
children, THOMAS,
> > LYDIA, and SARAH, C100 each, and to each of my daughters a bed and
> > furniture, a chest of drawers and a table. To my grand daughter,
SUSANAH
> > FISH, C10. To my grandson, JOHN WAY, C5. All the rest to my
children,
> > RICHARD, ROBERT, THOMAS, MARY WAY, LIDIA, and SARAH. I make my sons,
and
my
> > son-in-law, JAMES WAY, JR., and my good friend, James
Burling,
executors.
> > Dated September 8, 1743. Witnesses, Richard Hallett,
Joseph Sackett,
John
> > Sackett. Proved, October 14, 1743.