Hello John and Vicki,
Thank you for the information about Elijah, son of Benedict.
Perhaps I'm not reading this Yaple reference correctly then:
RESIDENCE: **Probably late 1771 or early 1772** the family moved
from Upper Milford Township, Northampton County, PA to (the former
Elias Carpenter Farm) the little Dutch colony of Pakatakan, Ulster
County, New York. In 1777 the settlement at Pakatakan was entirely
abandoned, due to the Tories attacks, but in 1783 the families
returned ...etc.
I had thought of Elijah myself, actually, but figured that a man born 1752
wouldn't have had time to establish and move away from a farm
by 1771 or 1772.
But perhaps what this is actually saying, years after the fact, is that the
property the Yaples moved to in 1771, later became the Elias Carpenter farm.
Confusing, but a possible reading.
There could be a nebulous connection of Benedict Carpenter to my Yaple/Avery
saga.
Mary "Polly" Yaple, daughter of Philip Henry Yaple and Susannah Vasqueax,
married Peter Avery, and his brother Nehemiah had four daughters who married
three Carpenter brothers, sons of John Carpenter and Ruth Horton.
One sees Abigail Horton, the wife of Benedict Carpenter as Ruth Horton's
sister. The issue of David Horton and Judith Chase, Ruth Horton's supposed
parents, is so poorly understood,
that much of it is guesswork, and I don't know what proof there is of
Abigail Horton Carpenter being Ruth Horton Carpenter's sister.
I appreciate the informationabout Elias/Elijah Carpenter. It adds quite a
bit to what I had.
Sharilyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki Held" <vheld(a)utma.com>
To: <carpenter(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] "Elias Carpenter farm", Pakatakan, NY
RE: Elijah (Elias) Carpenter, Plattekill, NY
Elijah Carpenter is a brother to my 3rd great grandfather, James Carpenter,
son of Benedict of Westchester Co, NY. Here is the information I have on him
...
Elijah CARPENTER- was born 22 Jan 1752 in Scarsdale, Westchester, NY. He
died 11 J ul 1833 in Plattekill, Ulster, NY. Number 88 in the Carpenter
Family in America, 1901 book.
He was a farmer and blacksmith at Plattekill, New York. As a Patriot, he
loaned money to New York State and served in the Revolutionary War in the
1st. Regiment of Orange County, New York Militia. (James A. Roberts, New
York in the Revolution as Colony and State, page 19. and the Epistle, Vol.
IX, No. 6, Sept. 1983.)
Elijah married (1) Louisa HAYDOCK- on 25 Jan 1779 in Westchester, N Y.
Louisa was born about 1752 in Westchester, NY.
Children I have listed are:
Hannah Carpenter (27 Feb. 1780), Haydock Carpenter (07 May 1783) Abigail
Carpenter (1785)
Vicki (Carpenter) Held
-------Original Message-------
From: John R. Carpenter
Date: 05/02/11 12:16:19
To: carpenter(a)rootsweb.com; CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] "Elias Carpenter farm", Pakatakan, NY
Sharilyn,
There was a Elijah Carpenter son of Benedict Carpenter and Abigail Horton
who had or sold property near Pakatakan in the 1783/1785 period. However
his main property in that same period was closer to present day Plattekill
in the south eastern portion of the current Ulster County. The Town of
Plattekill was established in 1800 from part of the Town of Marlborough.
To make things more confusing he was married in Jan of 1779 in Westchester
County. His mother died in 1764, but his father died in 1791. I have no
info on his wife's parents. The property could have been inherited then
sold. I just do not know.
I hope this helps.
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project
http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm
Pakatakan is in present day Delaware County, NY. Pakatakan Artists Colony
Historic District is a national historic district located at Arkville in
Delaware County, New York. It is at NY 28 at jct. with Dry Brook Rd.
There is also a Pakatakan Mountain nearby.
Delaware County was formed in 1797 by combining portions of Otsego and
Ulster Counties.
Please also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaretville,_New_York
Margaretville is a village in Delaware County, New York, United States. The
Village of Margaretville is in the Town of Middletown. The village is on the
border of the Catskill Park. Margaretville is located at 42°8�51�N
74°39�4�W / 42.1475°N 74.65111°W / 42.1475; -74.65111
(42.147496, -74.651090)[1].
[A] 1765 map by Will Cockburn shows a road from Marbletown to Pakatakan
(near present day Margaretville and Arkville).[8]
In the 1770s, the original settlers paid "one hundred forty-nine pounds and
19 shillings" to American Indians for the land.
In June of 1778, a combined force of Tories and Indians led by Joseph Brant
raided the East Branch of the Delaware including the Margaretville area.[9]
August 26, 1778, general evacuation assisted by guard from Great
Shandaken.[10]
In 1778, the valleyâ?Ts settlers were driven off by the American Indians. It
was here that Tom Quick and Timothy Murphy became famous for their Indian
slayings.
Before the settlers were driven from their homes, they were given a timely
and friendly warning by an Indian named Tunis and returned to the Hudson
Valley. The settlers returned after the Revolutionary War.
In 1779, a deed to a Lot No. 39 was given to Livingstonâ?Ts sister, who
married Morgan Lewis. A daughter, named Margaret, was born to them.
In 1784, Ignos DuMond was the first settler in the current village. He sold
his claim of land for $100 to John Tompkins, who then built the first
sawmill.
1784 settlers return to area, including Ignos DuMond, nephew of Harmanus
DuMond
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharilyn Whitaker
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:50 AM
To: CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CARPENTER] "Elias Carpenter farm", Pakatakan, NY
The following is frequently seen in information describing Philip-Henry
Yaple and wife Susannah Vasqueau.
"...
RESIDENCE: Probably late 1771 or early 1772 the family moved
from Upper Milford Township, Northampton County, PA to (the former
Elias Carpenter Farm) the little Dutch colony of Pakatakan, Ulster
County, New York. In 1777 the settlement at Pakatakan was entirely
abandoned, due to the Tories attacks, but in 1783 the families
returned. ..."
Who was this Elias Carpenter, who had a farm in Pakatakan in Ulster County,
NY
at some point in the 1760s?
Many thanks,
Sharilyn Whitaker
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