Dear Bruce E.,
Is it possible for you to paste the French version to the Forum?
It is always nice to have both English and French for comparison.
Thanks!
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
Subject:
[CARPENTER] Carpentier nickname
Date:
Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:42:05 -0400
From:
"carpenter" <carp(a)tezukayama-u.ac.jp>
To:
CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com
I though the following interesting. It is a history of the Lords de
Haussi associated with the Abbey of Vaucelles at the same time and
place as the ancient Carpentiers. Much of their history was recorded by
Jean le Carpentier himself. Interestingly Carpentier noted nickname
usuages such as 'Baker' etc for this lineage in medieval abbey charters.
This should be kept in mind for the surname 'Carpenter'. Computer
translation:
"The Carpentier historian states that the charters of the abbey of St
Aubert of 1207 to 1296 mention lord of Haussy who would have had
pleasant nicknames such as Ribauds, Eblavé, Makeriau, the Pooch, the
Baker, Fringant, the Devil.
He delivers himself in this respect to the following comment:
" We can believe that the family of Haussi was unhappy in some of her
descendants, considering which it produced of Ribauds, i.e. the carnal
ones, which had given their heart in prey to most brutal passion, of the
pooches, i.e. of the obstinate ones, of the stubborn persons, the
devils, i.e. similar to the daemons which vomit only blasphemies... "
One meets indeed:
In 1297 Guillaume lord de Haussi says Ribaud is known as father of
another Guillaume Ribaud In 1338, Raoul de Haussi says the Devil, which
of Agnes de Solesmes had three wire called Jean, Raoul and Gilles all
the Devil In 1359, Simon says the Pooch of Haussi, knight resulting from
Simon says the Stubborn person. Husband of Rieuine de Waesnes, it had
Thomas, Simon, Gilles, Alette and Agnès de Haussi indifferently called
Cabots".
BC