John:
!BOOK: De Pairs De France by Joyeuse - Genealgie de la Maison de
Melun.
(of the House of Melun). Pg 221+.
I didn't quite understand your first message. Joyeuse was actually a
vicountship bestowed
on one of the later Meluns in the 1700s, and therefore received an account
in Pere Ansleme who quotes the letter from the king on the creation of the
title. There
is a longish family history as a preface. However there seems to be few
details
not given in the pages I already sent you. The Melun family had its own
family genealogy by the 1700s. Yet, the early history of the family, let us
say from 'Le Charpentier'
back to the beginnings, seems to have amounted to about 15 facts like "was
the son of" and "name
appeared in such and such abbey charter" or things we already knew
like "le voyage de la Terre Sainte l'an 1096."
This seems all the family knew of its origins
in the 1700s. The creation of the Vicountship of Joyeuse provided yet
another opportunity
to recite the glorious family history with its connections to the royal
house of Capet etc.
Sincerely,
Bruce Carpenter