Dear Bruce E.,
As long as we keep his copyright notice it may fall under the "fair use"
rules. Since I have made several efforts to contact him without any
result, let us proceed the under "fair use." However let us be careful
in citing him and his copyrighted material.
Below is the Hungerford data for the Carpenter forum.
A brief "Henry" Carpenter history follows ...
A "Henry" Carpenter was born circa 1155 and was of Coventry,
Warwickshire, England. 1215-1221 Henry Carpenter of Gosford St. - land
transaction.
A "Henry" Carpenter was born circa 1300 AD and was of Cornwall,
England. He was hung in 1348(43?). His ancestry may have the Jean/John
Carpentiers from France.
"Henry" Carpenter was born circa 1359/1379 in or of Bristol, Somerset,
England.
He has been believed to be related to the Gloucestershire Carpenters.
A "Henry" Carpenter (born circa 1390/95) served in 1418, for the town of
Derby as a member of the English Parliament. Per Playfairs Britsh
Antiquities, London 1810.
"Henry" Carpenter (a son of "Henry") was born circa 1545 and was of
West
Barnes, Surrey, England. He may have been a "vintner" in London. He was
noted in a 1618 will.
A "Henry" Carpenter was baptised 3 May 1549 in Ruardean, Gloucester,
England.
He is a descendant of the St Breavals, Gloucester, England Carpenters.
Remember Maurice?
"Henry" Carpenter and its variants was a popular Carpenter name in the
Cornwall (England) branch of the the Carpenters. The earliest "Henry" on
that line was baptised on 20 April 1584 in Phillack, Cornwall, England.
A "Henry" Carpenter also shows up as being baptised on 10 May 1590 in
Tanworth, Warwick, England. He is believed to be related to the
Carpenters of Homme.
The same for a "Henry" born about 1650 and was of Kings Norton, Warwick,
England.
Why "Henry"??? Because we have a "Henry" that is related to the
Hungerford area.
My guess is that he was of the Gloucester or Warwick Carpenter line.
Henrie CARPENTER Christening: 21 Nov 1602
Little Coxwell, Berkshire, England
Father: CARPENTER
Mother:
Henry CARPENTER - Marriage: 27 Mar 1626 Fugglestone St. Peter,
Wiltshire,
England. He married an Elizbeth in one of the 3 variants found.
(Tuggleston, Wiltshire, England)
(Tuggleston With, Bemerton,Wiltshire, England)
John CARPENTER Christening: 16 Oct 1680
Cookham, Berkshire, England
Father: Henry CARPENTER
Mother: Elizabeth
John CARPENTER (above) married Mary COSMOND on 5 Sep 1705 in St. Marys,
Reading, Berkshire, England. They have at least one child:
John CARPENTER baptised 2 Feb 1709 Hungerford, Berkshire, England.
This line maybe related to a documented Carpenter line in Bromham &
Calne, Wiltshire, England starting about 1700. They have several
"Henrys."
Thoughts?
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
Bruce E. Carpenter wrote:
John:
We would be reviewing the Hidden material in the forum and
not publishing. Would we really need his permission? He doesn't
answer his mail anyway.
BC
From: "John R. Carpenter" <jrcrin001(a)home.com>
Tue 11:38 AM
Subject: Hungerford material
To: "Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp(a)tezukayama-u.ac.jp>
Dear Bruce E.,
I have not yet recieved a reply to share this on the Carpenter Forum.
It is copyrighted. I will share it with you since you might find it
usful. See my notes that relate to it.
See the data below.
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
From:
"John R. Carpenter" <jrcrin001(a)home.com>
08/24/2001 10:52 AM
Subject:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BRKwills/
To: nick.hidden(a)btinternet.com
Dear Nick,
I would like to use some of the material on your web pages.
The cite in my genealogy program would be similar to:
SEE WEB PAGE AT:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BRKwills/wa10752.html
1710 robert osmond hungerford brk dean of sarum will inv 10752 will and
inventory of robert osmond of hungerford probate 14
june 1710 1) will dated 18 november 1709 signed robert osmond [seal]
witnesses: s. simpkins, pen mundy to my son robert osmond
remit debts to son in law thomas frizwell to son in law thomas paty of
chilton foliat
mary, daughter, now wife of john carpenter
ann daughter wife of thomas frizwell mary, wife residual legatee and
executrix 2) inventory taken by robert tuck of hungerford joyner william
allin of hungerford glover 20 may 1710 exhibited 19 june 1710 sum
£84-01-00 debts £70 refers to room over shop (as well as other rooms)
Copyright © 1998, Nick Hidden [Last revised 03 Apr 1998]
I would also like to share this data on the Carpenter Roots Forum for
discussion.
If I have your permission, I would be very grateful.
Sincerely,
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
USA
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John CARPENTER
Spouse: Mary COSMOND
Marriage: 5 Sep 1705
St. Marys, Reading, Berkshire, England
Source Information: IGI
Film Number: 456376
A456376 - 456376 Film
Child:
John CARPENTER
Christening: 2 Feb 1709
Hungerford, Berkshire, England
Father: John CARPENTER
Mother: Mary
Source Information:
Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Printout Call No.
P018801 1700-1812 0088273 Film 6900125 Film
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John Carpenter above was born about 1680. I find ...
John CARPENTER
Christening: 16 Oct 1680
Cookham, Berkshire, England
Father: Henry CARPENTER
Mother: Elizabeth
The only Henry I find in Berkshire is ...
Henrie CARPENTER
Christening: 21 Nov 1602
Little Coxwell, Berkshire, England
Father: CARPENTER
Mother:
The Henrys I find in Wiltshire are ...
(NOTE: 1, 2,& 3 appear to be the same person)
1. Henry CARPENTER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Marriage: 27 Mar 1626 Fugglestone St. Peter, Wiltshire,
England
2. Henry CARPENTER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Marriage: 27 Mar 1626 Tuggleston, Wiltshire, England
3. Henry CARPENTER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Marriage: 27 Mar 1626 Tuggleston With, Bemerton,
Wiltshire, England
4. Henry CARPENTER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Misc: 1636 Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire, England
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The father of Mary above was Robert (1710) below. Is the next record
the g??grandfather of Mary?
Robert OSMUNDE
Spouse: Elsabeth S.
Marriage: 25 May 1613
Alderbury, Wiltshire, England
Source Information: IGI
Batch number: Dates Source Call No.
M153161 1606-1756 1279368 Film
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MORE Robert Osmonds in Berkshire area per IGI
1. Robert OSMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 8 Apr 1781 Compton Beauchamp, Berkshire,
England
Parents: Father: Richard OSMAN
Mother: Sarah
2. Robbert OSMUND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 11 Aug 1676 Hungerford, Berkshire, England
Parents: Father: Robbert OSMUND
Mother:
3. Robert OSMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Marriage: 13 Apr 1578 Chieveley, Berkshire, England
Spouse: Jona_ PARSON
Marriage: 13 Apr 1578
Chieveley, Berkshire, England
Source Information:
Batch number: Dates: Source Call No. Printout Call No.
M021242 1560-1719 0254496 Film 6908380 Film
4. Robert OSMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Misc: 13 Apr 1578 Chieveley, Berkshire, England
Spouse: Jona_ PARSON
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SEE WEB PAGE AT:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BRKwills/wa10752.html
1710 robert osmond hungerford brk dean of sarum will inv 10752 will and
inventory of robert osmond of hungerford probate 14
june 1710 1) will dated 18 november 1709 signed robert osmond [seal]
witnesses: s. simpkins, pen mundy to my son robert osmond
remit debts to son in law thomas frizwell to son in law thomas paty of
chilton foliat
mary, daughter, now wife of john carpenter
ann daughter wife of thomas frizwell mary, wife residual legatee and
executrix 2) inventory taken by robert tuck of hungerford joyner william
allin of hungerford glover 20 may 1710 exhibited 19 june 1710 sum
£84-01-00 debts £70 refers to room over shop (as well as other rooms)
Copyright © 1998, Nick Hidden [Last revised 03 Apr 1998]