So why do you bore the rest of us on this list with old, repeated,
messages? Keep your corrections of each other's material off list please!
Dick Carpenter
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From: John Carpenter <jcarp45(a)top.monad.net>
To: <CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 7:52 PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Fw: Carpenter
comments please
Descendants of William #1 Carpenter
Generation No. 1
1. WILLIAM #12 CARPENTER (RICHARD1)1,2,2 was born May 23, 1605 in
Nettlecomb, Somerset, England2, and died September 07, 1685 in Providence,
Providence, RI. He married ELIZABETH PEAKE ARNOLD3,3,4,5 November 01, 1635
in Aboard ship to USA, daughter of WILLIAM ARNOLD and CHRISTINA PEAK. She
was born November 23, 1611 in Ilchester, Domerset, England, and died
September 07, 1685 in Pawtuxet Rhode Island.
Notes for WILLIAM #1 CARPENTER:
William CARPENTER- was born about 1608/1611 in Amesbury, Wiltshire,
England
and was christened in of Nettlecomb, Somerset, England. He died 7 Sep
1685
in Pawtuxet, Providence, RI and was buried 7 Sep 1685 in Pawtuxet,
Providence, RI.
!SEE: "History and Genealogy of the CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA" from the
settlement at Providence, RI 1637-1901. By Daniel Hoogland Carpenter of
Mapelwood, Essex, NJ. Published by the Marion Press of Jamacia,
Queensborough, NY in 1901. 370 Pages. Will on pages 20 to 28. AKA: William
of Amesbury. William Carpenter, Founder of the Providence Carpenters, is
Number 1.
He was the son and heir of Richard Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire,
England. Did William go to Barbadoes in 1634? Or was it a cousin? See page
5
in the above record. See Brother Richard's notes.
See page 354, Describing the "Visitation" or census of the College of Arms
in 1623 and 1634 where it is shown that there was a number of Carpenter
families in Gloucester, Hereford, Somerset, and Surrey, who made proof of
their pedigrees by presenting arms which were emblazoned in the windows of
the Church at Westbury upon Trin (often called the Worcester Arms).
FOUNDER: This William Carpenter is considered to be the founder of the
Providence (Pawtuxet), Rhode Island Branch of the Carpenter family.
Notes and hist of this Family came from :
Updates printed in The Carpenter & Related Family History Journal written
by
Raymond George Carpenter,& Harry Rodgers ,Genealogist for the
Carpenter
family, CRFHJ pub by James A. Carpenter ,Bowling Green, Kty.
!SEE: "History and Genealogy of the CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA" from the
settlement at Providence, RI 1637-1901. By Daniel Hoogland Carpenter of
Mapelwood, Essex, NJ.
Published by the Marion Press of Jamacia, Queens,
NY in 1901. 370 Pages.
Will on pages 20 to 28.
William Carpenter, Founder of the Providence Carpenters
Did William go to Barbadoes in 1634? Or was it a cousin?
See page 5 in the above record. See Brother Richard's notes.
See page 354, Describing the "Visitation" or census of the College of Arms
in
1623 and 1634 where it is shown that there was a number of Carpenter
families in Gloucester, Hereford, Somerset, and Surrey, who made proof
of their pedigrees by presenting arms which were emblazoned in the windows
of
the Church at Westbury upon Trin (often called the Worcester Arms).
!SEE: "160 ALLIED FAMILIES" BY JOHN OSBORNE AUSTIN, 1893, REPRINTED 1977,
P56-58
THIS RECORD GIVES AN EXTENSIVE HISTORY OF WILLIAM FROM 1637 TO HIS DEATH
IN
1685 WHILE IN AMERICA. SISTER FRIDGSWITH VINCENT IS MENTIONED IN 1671, 12,
14.
GIVING HER PROPERTY IN ENGLAND WILLED TO HIM BY HIS DECEASED FATHER
(RICHARD).
!SEE: "NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1700" BY CLARENCE ALMON TORREY,
1985,
P
136 CARPENTER, WILLIAM ( -1685) & ELIZABETH ARNOLD (1611-1683+); IN
ENGLAND,
B
1635; PROVIDENCE/PAWTUXET, RI.
!SEE: "GENEALOGICAL & FAMILY HISTORY OF WESTERN NEW YORK", LEWIS 1912,
PAGE
274:
(1) The first person bearing the (MALE) name Carpenter to make permanent
settlement in America was William Carpenter, son of Richard Carpenter, of
Amesbury, Wiltshire, England. He married Elizabeth Arnold, born at
Cheselbourne, Dorsetshire, England, November 23, 1611.
MUCH DETAILED DESCENDENT HISTORY GIVEN.
!MISC: William came to America with his father-in-law and his wife.
Their ship left Dartmouth, Devonshire, England on Friday May 1, 1635
(should
be 1636) and arrived in New England on June 24, 1636 at Hingham, MA.
The ship was called the "Plain Joan" and arrived in Boston after a 54 day
trip.
William is listed in the first deed executed in the Colony by Roger
Williams.
Robert Coles lived on the property adjoining. William Carpenter, Robert
Coles and William Arnold were three of 14 charter members of the Baptist
Church
of America established by Roger Williams at Providence on August 3, 1638.
For defense against indian attacks, William Carpenter built a block house
on
his property soon after settling there. In an Indian attack during King
Phillip's War, all the settlers gathered for protection inside the block
house, where their brave stand compelled the Indians to retreat. This
William's son William Jr. was killed in the attack though, and this
William, while busily engaged in repairing the damage to his estate
died on Sept. 7, 1685.
!BOOK: See page 9 of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
!SEE: Cuyler Reynolds (Ed.) Hudson-Mohawk genealogical
& Family memoirs, Vol. II (NY, 1911), pp. 524-526.
!SEE: Also The American Historical Society, Carpenter and Allied Families
(Washington, D.C. 1931); and an unpublished supplement to Daniel Hoogland
Carpenter's book, by Ruth Carpenter Adair of North Quincy, MA; and records
of
Katherine Stone Moore and records of Louise Carpenter Licklider.
!AFN 3027-SG IS THE SAME AS 8TG4-NF WITH THE FOLLOWING DIFFERENCES:
B.31 JUL 1947, E.18 DEC 1947, SP.25 JUN 1948 SG, DOB OF ABT 1611 MOST
PROBABLE.
AFN LSD9-5L is the same person with a death place in Rehoboth, MA & 2nd
spouse
WILLIAM HAS (2) TWO FATHERS IN THE ANCESTORY FILE. WILLIAM CARPENTER AFN
8MH9-NS B. ABT 1576 IN HOWELL, LINCOLN, England IS INCORRECT. RICHARD
CARPENTER
IS CORRECT SEE NOTES ABOVE. Also AFN GJ4M-QD Abigail Searles as a spouse
is
incorrect. She married another William Carpenter.
William died 7 Sept 1658 in Rehbobth, Mass and is burried in The Newman
Cemetary in Rumford, RI which used to be a part of Rehoboth, MA. His
marker
is a oirdinary Field stone with the initials W.C. and below that
1658
chisled into it.
also In "The Carpenter Family in America by D. H. Carpenter " pub 1901
page 19 it states "William Carpenter died Sept 7, 1685 "]
William and Elizabeth were married for a short time before they came to
America. A memorandum from the Arnold family states: "We left Dartmouth on
*
Friday, May 1, 1635,(should be 1636) and arrived in New England *June
24,
1635, going first to Hingham and than to Providence, where we arrived
April
20, 1636."
* A obvious miscalculation as May 1 st 1635 fell on a Thursday (not
Friday)
, and there was no settlement at Providence as early as April 1636,
Roger
William's landed there in in June 1636.
Wm. came to America with his wife & father in law Their ship was called
the
" Plain Joan " arrived in Boston after a 54 days Trip.
The first mention that we can find relating to William Carpenter occurs in
what is called the "Initial Deed," a document hastily drawn up by Roger
Williams, at the time of settlement, in which he designates "his living
friends and neighbors"
who are to have equal rights with himself.
These friends and neighbors were twelve in number, and until December 23,
1661, this "Initial Deed was all they had to show in the way of title to
their holdings.
The "First Baptist Church in America" was constituted at Providence
between
August 3, 1638 and March 16, 1639. William Carpenter was one of the
original
founders. As a lay minister, he performed the marriage ceremony at
the
wedding of his
daughter.
Up to this date, 1638, the "Proprietors," as they now began to be called,
were living on their "Home Lotts", situated conveniently near together for
neighborly intercourse and mutual protection. These lots contained about 6
acres each and all
fronted on "Town Street" with a dividing line between the lots running
each
and west. William Carpenter's lot was separated from the lot of
Robert
Coles
by a "highway". Town street is now Main Street and the
"highway" is
Meeting
Street, so
called because of the Friends Meeting House which now occupies William
Carpenter's lot.
William Carpenter was allotted a large tract of land at "Pautuxet" - a
beautiful meadowland, about four miles southerly from Providence, bounded
on
the east by the Narrangansett Bay and on the south by the Pawtuxet
River.
In
later years this
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----- Original Message -----
From: "william haslun" <genebuff3(a)juno.com>
To: <jcarp45(a)top.monad.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 4:11 PM
Subject: Carpenter
> Carpenter pages
> 14901 total entries, last updated Fri Apr 21 07:54:21 2000
> All questions, comments or suggestions regarding information on
> Hi John: I know all about the Bevis etc. What I am trying to tell you is
> that YOUR PAGE ON ROOTSWEB is incorrect. See below as I "copied" it from
> your rootsweb site. You have YOUR William who was b.abt. 1611(and was
> married to Elizabeth Arnold)with MY WILLIAM'S birth date of May 23
1605!!!!!
> Why aren't you using YOUR WILLIAM'S birth date..that's all I'm
trying to
> say. Correct it please. Bill Haslun
>
> this page should be addressed to: John L. Carpenter
> <jcarp45(a)top.monad.net>
>
>
>
> ID: I00216
> Name: William #1 CARPENTER 1 1 2 3 4
> Sex: M
> ALIA: William Vincent /Carpenter/
> Birth: 23 MAY 1605 in Nettlecomb, Somerset, England 2 3
> Death: 7 SEP 1685 in Providence, Providence, RI
> _FA2: 24 JUN 1636 Ship arrived at Hingman Massachussetts
> _FA3: 3 AUG 1638 Wm became a charter member of the 1 st baptist Church
of
> America,
> _FA4: 1638 along with Robert Coles,William Arnold,Roger Williams. and
and
9
> others
> _FA5: 7 SEP 1685 Died while busy repair damage to his estate During King
> Phillip's War.
> Event: Burried 1 MAY 1635 Their ship left Dartmouth,Devonshire England
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