I knew I had seen the name Moytoy somewhere. This is posted at
http://familytrees.genopro.com/beltster/Marshall/default.htm?page=Carpent...
Marshall Genealogy ............
Thomas Pasmere Passmore (father of MoyToy) was born in 1607. Thomas Pasmere
Passmore (father of MoyToy)'s father was Robert CONFLICT Carpenter and his
mother was Susan Pasmere Passmore Jeffery. His paternal grandparents were
William Carpenter and Abigail; his maternal grandparents are John Jeffery
and Joan Pasmere (Passmore??). He was an only child. He died at the age of
68 in 1675 in Running Water Village.
ANOTHER ARTICLE GIVES MORE DETAIL, this one is found at
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080417161056AATJNVG
Q: Cherokee question: Does anyone know who the ancestors of Amatoya Moytoy
were?
I am working on my geneology. He was a Cherokee chief. I believe the tribe
descended from the Algonquin tribe. I have Moytoy's descendents, just not
his ancestors. Thanks.
Reply posted by Cherokee Horizon
Yes, his father was "Thomas Pasmere Carpenter" who at 20 years old came to
Jamestown, Virginia from England in 1627. Thomas was the son of "Robert
Carpenter" (1578 - 1651) and "Susan Pasmere Jeffery" (1579 - 1651). He had
a
ten acre lease in Virginia, but it was later given to someone else because
of his age, so he went to live with the Shawnee and made his home in a cave.
Thomas was called "Cornplanter" by the Shawnee, derived from their sign
language that matched as near as possible to the work of a carpenter. He
married a Shawnee woman named "Pride" and bore a son around 1635 named
"Trader Carpenter," and a daughter Pasmere Carpenter, about 1637. Together
with partners John Greenwood and Thomas Watts they began a thriving fur
business.
Trader was taught to "witch" for water with a willow stick by the Shawnee.
He was later known by the Cherokee as the "water conjurer" or Ama Matai (Ama
is Cherokee for water). Ama Matai eventually became pronounced as Amatoya.
It was also shortened to "Moytoy", so he is known as Moytoy I.
The clan grew quickly. Trader (Amatoya / Moytoy I) married a Shawnee named
"Locha" in 1658. Pasmere married the grandfather of "Cornstalk
Hokolesqua"
(Shawnee) in 1660. The same year the clan was driven south by the Iroquois.
They moved along the Tennessee river, starting the villages of Running Water
(where Thomas died in 1675), Nickajack, Lookout Mountain, Crowtown and
Chota. Chota was created as a merging place of refuge for people of all
tribes, history or color. It became similar to a capital for the Cherokee
nation. These villages grew to about 2000 people by 1670 when the Carpenter
clan moved to Great Tellico. Here Trader (Amatoya / Motoy I) married
"Quatsy" of the Wolf Clan in 1680. They bore a daughter "Nancy" in
1683.
Though Amatoya (Trader) was chief of the above mentioned villages, it was
his son "Moytoy II" (sometimes called "Trader-Tom") who was the one
who
actually became a Cherokee principle chief. In 1730, Trader-Tom (Moytoy II)
took over as Chief, receiving what was described as the "Crown of Tannassy".
Tanasi was where the previous Chief resided and the traditional headdress
was passed on to him. Some called him "Emperor of the Cherokee."
Amatoya's grandson (through daughter Nancy and an Algonquin named "White Owl
Raven" who had been adopted by Trader-Tom ) was "Attacullaculla", known as
the "little carpenter" because of the Carpenter family name. Attacullaculla
and several brothers traveled to London in 1730 with Sir Alexander Cumming
to meet King George II.
The fur trading Carpenter family owned many ships. Thomas made several trips
to Barbados over the years where they did banking, and even to Scotland and
Ireland. On occasion he took Trader, and Trader Tom with him. This line is
descended from "Vicomte Guillaume de Melun le Carpentier," and that links
them to the British royal family.
Source(s):
http://cherokeeregistry.com