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Subject: purple ribbon I think this is a fabulous idea -------- And
certainly does make sense to me.
A movement has been started like that from Desert Storm. During Desert
Storm we tied yellow ribbons anywhere we could. Well, now the movement
is to tie purple ribbons the same way. This is for two reasons.
1. In remembrance of not only the firefighters, police officers,
paramedics who have died, but also for all who have died in this
terrible tragedy.
2. Just as in the military, when a serviceman get injured, he is given
the Purple Heart. Well, our country has been injured to its core.
Please pass this on to everyone you know, and let's see purple ribbons
everywhere. Along with the flag of the United States of America.
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Very eloquent, sir. I concur.
RMM
----- Original Message -----
From: John R. Carpenter
To: CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: 09/12/2001 4:21:41 PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Remember the Twin
Towers! September 11, 2001.
Dear Friend,
I support President Bush and ANY action he will take against ANY
terrorist world wide.
War has been declared on the civilized world by a racist and bigotted
minority.
Let us have the resolve to eradicate those that wage this shadow war
along with those that harbor them.
Let those that teach hate and the narrow mindedness of terror taste
only
the sour bitterness of their defeat.
May those who were injured or died receive the Blessings of the God
of
Abraham, Isaac Jacob.
NOW is the time to protect and defend the Constitution of the United
States of America AND ALL FREE PEOPLE against all enemies foreign and
domestic.
Remember the Twin Towers! September 11, 2001.
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
Remember the Twin Towers! Pass it on!
---
--- virginiastevens(a)earthlink.net
Dear Friend,
I support President Bush and ANY action he will take against ANY
terrorist world wide.
War has been declared on the civilized world by a racist and bigotted
minority.
Let us have the resolve to eradicate those that wage this shadow war
along with those that harbor them.
Let those that teach hate and the narrow mindedness of terror taste only
the sour bitterness of their defeat.
May those who were injured or died receive the Blessings of the God of
Abraham, Isaac & Jacob.
NOW is the time to protect and defend the Constitution of the United
States of America AND ALL FREE PEOPLE against all enemies foreign and
domestic.
Remember the Twin Towers! September 11, 2001.
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
Remember the Twin Towers! Pass it on!
The following catalogue of names in Warwickshire shows
how few Carpenters there were. Compare Smith.
BC
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/west/index.html#index
"Index to The History of Warwickshire by William West (1830)
The index of names has been transcribed from "The History, Topography &
Directory of Warwickshire" by William WEST published in 1830, a copy of
which is in the Auckland Public Library under;-"
Great Grandson of Rubin L. CARPENTER was buried yesterday.
This information was passed on to me by the florist in Lineville AL when I
phoned to order flowers for my Aunt Lillian Edna CARPENTER (nee PATTERSON)
who passed away today. "Did you know Charles W. Carpenter the brother of
Mary Katherine HULL?" I told her through genealogy I knew of them. Ms. HULL
published a piece on CARPENTERs. "Well, Mr. Carpenter was buried
yesterday." :
Charles William CARPENTER b. 1824 Clay Co ALA d. Sept 2001.
His father was William Ezra Carpenter,
His grandfather was John Lewis Carpenter
His great grandfather was an ALA pioneer, Ruben L. Carpenter
My deepest sympathies to any of family on the list.
*****
My Aunt Lil was the wife of John Fred CARPENTER b. 1915 Clay Co AL.
Lillian Edna (Patterson) CARPENTER was born 1916 in Clay Co ALA to Zachariah
and Ada Idella SHORT. She will be buried at Oak Grove Cemetery on Monday.
Donna Carpenter Cuzze
GENEALOGY PAGE: http://www.geocities.com/donnacarpenter.geo
VEGAS HOME PAGE: http://donna_carpenter.tripod.com/index.html
EMAIL: dcvegas(a)lasvegas.net
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Gene wrote:
> Small world, indeed. Having had no luck locating in New England the servant
> Thomas "Banshott," who accompanied the Carpenters on the BEVIS, I've often
> wondered if his surname was actually Blanchard. Is it certain that the
> Thomas Blanchard whose marriage was witnessed in 1637 by Henry Byley was he
> who came on the JONATHAN in 1639?
Yes. Our knowledge of the passengers of the Jonathan comes entirely from
the records of a court case involving Blanchard and his step-son Richard
Barnes, who was the son of Agnes (Bent) Barnes, the 1637 bride.
> Pope's PIONEERS OF MASSACHUSETTS says
> Thomas Blanchard of the JONATHAN was from Penton, Hampshire.
That's where the Bent family lived. The Bents belonged to Weyhill
parish, though, and the parish registers there show lots of Bent events,
but no Blanchards. I believe the earliest records for Penton Mewsey
parish date from 1647, which is too late for us.
John Chandler
Since the attachment on the mail a few days ago by Teresa Hooker seems to
have had the attachment generated by the virus called "w32/sircam@mm",
and this one seems to be a real threat to home PC's as well as corporate
users, here is some additional information.
If you are a user of anti virus software, get it updated to current. If you
have a firewall system or some form of proxy software, be aware of the
indicators that you may have inadvertantly contracted this virus.
Here is more than we ever wanted to know about the virus and its manual
removal instructions ( for those who have no current AV software). Still
well worth reading the relevant parts for the PC home user.
If you have McAfee AV software, here is their page
http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99141&
If you have Symantec AV software, here is the following page writeup
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sircam.worm@mm.html
This page is more detailed, but the instructions for manual removal seem to
be easier to follow.
To read information by a well respected industry virus and hoax watcher Rob
Rosenberger, see
http://www.vmyths.com/hoax.cfm?id=262&page=3
and at the risk of sounding like one of his "False Authority Syndrome"
people, I would still urge you to examine carefully any mail that comes with
an attachment, and update your
AV software if it is installed.
----- Original Message -----
From: <GeneZub(a)aol.com>
To: <CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:22 PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Re: CARPENTER-D Digest V01 #167
> Re: Message #4
>
> Jerry Carpenter's caution as to the file attachment from Teresa
> (t.hooker2(a)verizon.net) was well founded. I just received an e-mail from
the
> same person/address with an infected file attachment (images.pif). My
reply,
> informing Teresa of the virus contained in the attachment, could not be
> delivered ("invalid recipient ... user unknown"). What's the story,
Teresa?
>
> Gene Z.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Re: [CARPENTER] Re: CARPENTER-D Digest V01 #167
> Date: 9/3/01 7:41:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> From: t.hooker2(a)verizon.net (Teresa)
> To: GeneZub(a)aol.com
>
> File: images.pif (13312 bytes)
> DL Time (42667 bps): < 1 minute
>
> 'GeneZub(a)aol.com' wrote:
> ====
> - Re: Message #2
> -
> - << The 1607 map of Hampshire clearly shows Horwell in Hampshire as a
> - "hundred" designation, being a subdivision of the whole county. The town
> - itself was designated Shallwell, which it is clearly not on the Bevis
list.
> This to
> - me at least heightens suspicion we are dealing with Horwell in
Berkshire. >>
> -
> - THE PHILLIMORE ATLAS AND INDEX OF PARISH REGISTERS contains two maps of
> Hampshire, one showing the county's parishes, the other i ...'
>
>
> > Take a look to the attachment. >>
>
> Jerry's message (#4), posted to Carpenter Digest Vol. 167:
>
> << Scary attachment, Teresa. the file Readme.txt.pif contains two
suffixes.
> I
> wouldn't open any attachment that is structured with two file suffixes.
It
> makes the file look like an attachment created by sircam(a)mm.exe virus.
>
> Just describe it to me, if it is important
>
> thx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Teresa Hooker" <t.hooker2(a)verizon.net>
> To: <jcarp(a)ccstrat.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [CARPENTER] Horwell: OT
>
>
> 'Jerry Carpenter' wrote:
> ====
> -
> -
> - In "Horwell" , Hereford or Hampshire, do hurricanes hardly happen?
> -
> - (With apologies to Frederick Loewe and Alan Jay Lerner)
> -
> - ----- Original Message -----
> - From: "Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp(a)whidbey.com>
> - To: <CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> - Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:20 AM
> - Subject: [CARPENTER] Horwell
> -
> -
> - > Thanks to John's fine idea of placing the original Bevis list
> - > on the net we can see that the issue is still undecided. The 160 ...'
>
>
> > Take a look to the attachment. >>
>
Dear Bruce & Carpenter Forum Folks,
The Thames valley is on the eastern side of this area. There are a bit
of upland between the start of the Thames River Valley and the western
side.
The area I described is the "Valle of Whitehorse" to the west and the
general area is called "The Cotswolds."
J. Hatten Carpenter cited most. The data seems from his notebooks. I
checked a photocopy of one of his notebooks but the area and names (in
question) were not in it.
Some of his material is on microfilm and some is "who knows where." It
seems most of his material was entered into the IGI but much was not
microfilmed. It seems strange.
Does anyone on the list have any comments or thoughts on this material?
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
Re: Message #2
<< Here's an item from the Small World deptartment: I noticed on the Bevis
passenger list just now the name Henry Byley of Sarum. Henry Byley was the
witness in 1637 at a marriage between a woman of his parish and Thomas
Blanchard of Goodworth Clatford (who emigrated in 1639). >>
Small world, indeed. Having had no luck locating in New England the servant
Thomas "Banshott," who accompanied the Carpenters on the BEVIS, I've often
wondered if his surname was actually Blanchard. Is it certain that the
Thomas Blanchard whose marriage was witnessed in 1637 by Henry Byley was he
who came on the JONATHAN in 1639? Pope's PIONEERS OF MASSACHUSETTS says
Thomas Blanchard of the JONATHAN was from Penton, Hampshire. (Penton Mewsey
is about 4 miles from Goodworth Clatford.)
Gene Z.
Re: Message #4
"PHILLIMORE ATLAS AND INDEX"
<< Date of this work?? >>
First edition (England only), 1984; 2d, rev. ed. (incl. Wales, Scotland),
c1995. The topographical maps are from James Bell's A NEW AND COMPREHENSIVE
GAZETTEER OF ENGLAND AND WALES (1834).
<< The orginal Bevis list does seem to spell Horwell. It does seem to be an
"o" after the "H". >>
I agree.
<< Was the Berkshire Harwell spelled Horwell in 1638? >>
Don't know. In Phillimore, both Berkshire maps have it as Harwell. The only
online listing I've been able to find that includes an ancient variant is the
following:
HARWELL [Harewelle] (Old English) well ="spring, stream" near the (Old
English) har ="grey" hill (see http://www.gwp.enta.net/berknames.htm).
Gene Z.
Re: Message #4
Jerry Carpenter's caution as to the file attachment from Teresa
(t.hooker2(a)verizon.net) was well founded. I just received an e-mail from the
same person/address with an infected file attachment (images.pif). My reply,
informing Teresa of the virus contained in the attachment, could not be
delivered ("invalid recipient ... user unknown"). What's the story, Teresa?
Gene Z.
----- Original Message -----
Re: [CARPENTER] Re: CARPENTER-D Digest V01 #167
Date: 9/3/01 7:41:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: t.hooker2(a)verizon.net (Teresa)
To: GeneZub(a)aol.com
File: images.pif (13312 bytes)
DL Time (42667 bps): < 1 minute
'GeneZub(a)aol.com' wrote:
====
- Re: Message #2
-
- << The 1607 map of Hampshire clearly shows Horwell in Hampshire as a
- "hundred" designation, being a subdivision of the whole county. The town
- itself was designated Shallwell, which it is clearly not on the Bevis list.
This to
- me at least heightens suspicion we are dealing with Horwell in Berkshire. >>
-
- THE PHILLIMORE ATLAS AND INDEX OF PARISH REGISTERS contains two maps of
Hampshire, one showing the county's parishes, the other i ...'
> Take a look to the attachment. >>
Jerry's message (#4), posted to Carpenter Digest Vol. 167:
<< Scary attachment, Teresa. the file Readme.txt.pif contains two suffixes.
I
wouldn't open any attachment that is structured with two file suffixes. It
makes the file look like an attachment created by sircam(a)mm.exe virus.
Just describe it to me, if it is important
thx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Teresa Hooker" <t.hooker2(a)verizon.net>
To: <jcarp(a)ccstrat.com>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [CARPENTER] Horwell: OT
'Jerry Carpenter' wrote:
====
-
-
- In "Horwell" , Hereford or Hampshire, do hurricanes hardly happen?
-
- (With apologies to Frederick Loewe and Alan Jay Lerner)
-
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: "Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp(a)whidbey.com>
- To: <CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com>
- Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:20 AM
- Subject: [CARPENTER] Horwell
-
-
- > Thanks to John's fine idea of placing the original Bevis list
- > on the net we can see that the issue is still undecided. The 160 ...'
> Take a look to the attachment. >>
You two geniuses seem to have no idea what is going on. No one is arguing
with anyone. We are working out Rehoboth Carpenter family history
from 1638 back. Wake up.
BC
Over the long weekend, I had the opportunity to visit Rhode Island,
nominally to spend time at the beach. While there, I managed to squeeze
in a trip to the Perryville Church Cemetery (historic cemetery #47 of
South Kingstown), and I located the gravestones of Benjamin and Thankful
Carpenter. (It wasn't easy -- the stones are of marble and considerably
weathered, and Benjamin's has fallen over and is half overgrown with
wild thyme.) I knew they were supposed to be there because they are
listed in the RI Cemetery Database, but it's a far different thing to
see them directly, and, besides, I've heard two dissenting reports that
gave different dates from those in the database. At any rate, I can now
confirm that the database is correct for these and some other Carpenter
stones that I saw there. What I saw:
Benjamin Carpenter, died 1840 Sep 18, aged 76
his wife Thankful T. Carpenter, died 1826 Dec 27, aged 57
[This Benjamin was probably the son of Thomas Carpenter who died in
Exeter, RI, in 1815, and whose estate was administered by "Benjamin
Carpenter of South Kingstown". This Thomas in turn is rumored to be
the same Thomas whose birth is entered in the West Greenwich vital
records as 1738 Aug 3.]
Benjamin Carpenter, [who happens to be their son, but is buried in a
different area] died 1869 Jul 11, aged 62y 8m 25d
his wife Sarah Carpenter, died 1875 Sep 15, aged 62y 9m 29d
some offspring of this pair which I didn't write down (it was getting
dark)
all on one monument:
Thomas A. Carpenter, born 1836 Feb 14, died 1911 Aug 16
his wife Olympia I. Kerr, born 1842 Jul 19, died 1919 May 18
their son William B. Carpenter, born 1861 Jul 20, died 1932 Nov 29
Hezekiah Willard, 1862-1936
his wife Mary N. Carpenter, [evidently daughter of Thomas] 1864-1957
I hope this helps someone.
John Chandler
hi bruce and john,
are you guysfighting again ? you seem to be getting far away from all
of us here trying to find our carpenter lines. i know you are way ahead of
us but it seems like you would help some out not fight over a book from
1600s .have a good day and dont for get people just starting out
cheryl
"PHILLIMORE ATLAS AND INDEX"
Date of this work?? The orginal Bevis list does seem
to spell Horwell. It does seem to be an "o" after the "H".
Was the Berkshire Harwell spelled Horwell in 1638?
BC
Re: Message #2
<< The 1607 map of Hampshire clearly shows Horwell in Hampshire as a
"hundred" designation, being a subdivision of the whole county. The town
itself
was designated Shallwell, which it is clearly not on the Bevis list. This to
me at least heightens suspicion we are dealing with Horwell in Berkshire. >>
THE PHILLIMORE ATLAS AND INDEX OF PARISH REGISTERS contains two maps of
Hampshire, one showing the county's parishes, the other its villages and
towns. The former depicts Wherwell as a split parish, its two parts
separated by the narrow parishes of Upper Clatford and Goodworth Clatford.
The latter, "regular" map locates the town/village of Wherwell (same place as
the parish) within the Wherwell Hundred.
In neither map does a Shal(l)well appear. I find no such civil or
ecclesiastical entity, ancient or recent, in all of England.
Gene Z.
Dear Bruce E.,
I have placed a picture file (jpg) of the Bevis passenger list in
question on my web page. Look for "Bevis passenger list"
I hope this helps.
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
My web page is at:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/John-R-Carpenter/
Subject:
[CARPENTER] Bevis question
Date:
Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:14:13 -0700
From:
"Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp(a)whidbey.com>
To:
CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Did the original ship list note the county. The quoted list below
does not. Others I have seen have a county designation. A later
addition?
BC
"Proclamacon come unto Southton." (lists of names)
age name
62 William Carpenter
33 William Carpenter Jun (of Horwell)
32 Abigail Carpenter
10 & under four children.
servant."
______________________________
carp(a)whidbey.com
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