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Hello:
I have posted this same request several times, but keep trying....
1 - Isaac K. CARPENTER (my 2 GGF)
(spouse's name possibly Mary Ann)
2 - Mary Ann CARPENTER
born - 22 Oct 1830 Binghamton, Broome Co., NY
marr - 06 Apr 1848 Albion, Erie Co. PA
died - 28 Jun 1910 Wolf Point, MT
sp- Irwin THOMPSON (son of Hiram THOMPSON and Selina STEWART)
I would dearly love to find any information on these people.
Mary Anne
Mary Anne Sibley, 320 Fleet Street, SW., Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada T1A 7Z5
masibley(a)telusplanet.net
Seek Info on and parents of William E.(arl)? (as son of Alberts' is
named EARL) Carpenter
poss. b.10 Mar 1807 in RI, Resided in Naussau, Rensselaer County NY aft
abt 1844
poss.Wife #2 Ann B. Martin was m. 1844/46 in Providence, R.I
Fact:
Son of Wm E. Carpenter & Ann B. Martin = ALBERT AUGUSTUS CARPENTER
b. abt 1844/46 in Scotland, Windham County, Conn.
He married Mary D. Huntington
her parents were GEORGE HUNTINGTON & MARIA UPHAM.
Married Oct 5 1865,in ? Naussau, Rensselear Cty.,NY . Mary's family
was
from Stephentown, Rensselaer Cty, NY. The 1860 census shows Albert
working in
a paper mill at age 16 in the town of Nassau ,Rensselaer Cty, NY
JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CHECK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
Seek Info on and parents of William Earl Carpenter
b.10 Mar 1807 in RI, Resided in Naussau, Rensslear Count NY aft abt 1844
Wife #2Ann Martin was m. 1844/46 in Providece R.I
Son of Wm Carpenter & Ann Martin =
ALBERT AUGUSTUS CARPENTER
b. abt 1844/46 in Windham County Conn. He married Mary D. Huntington her
parents were GEORGE HUNTINGTON & MARIA UPHAM.
Married Oct 5 1865,in ? Naussau,Rensslear Cty.,NY . Mary's family was
from Stephentown,Rensslear Cty, NY. The 1860 census shows Albert working in
a paper mill at age 16 in the town of Nassau ,Rensslear Cty, NY
JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CHECK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
Ooops! Forgot to put this with the other.
���96. Barbara7 Hester (Stephen6, Mildred5 Crews, Gideon4, Joseph3 Crew,
John2, John1) was born 1818. She married (1) John Zimmerman. She married (2)
John David Marshall.
�������Children of Barbara Hester and John Zimmerman are:
�123i.�Joseph8 Zimmerman, born 1845.
�124ii.�Mary Elizabeth Zimmerman, born 1848.
�125iii.�Mary Zimmerman, born 1850.
�126iv.�Martha Zimmerman, born 1851.
+127v.�Stephen Hester Zimmerman, born 1854
This info comes from a Familytreemaker site of Charles Demastus.
Donna
Hello Carpenters,
Didn't know if this would help any Zimmerman-Carpenters:
Levi Crews, born Abt. 1807 in Stokes Co, NC; died 1888 in Forsyth Co, NC. He
married Leanna Zimmerman 20 Jan 1826 in Stokes Co, NC.
�Notes for Levi Crews:
Marriage between Levi and Leanna was Bonded 10 Jan. 1826 so actual date of
marriage would probably been shortly thereafter. Researcher Mark Accas gives
actual marriage date as 20 Jan. 1826. Also gives Levi a 2nd wife named
Elizabeth with no other info. on her.
Donna
Christian �C.Z.� Carpenter (1726 - 1800) m. Mary ? probably in Anson or Gaston
County, NC. What was her maiden name? She died in 1805 and both of them are
buried in the Big Gullies Cemetery in Gaston Co., NC.
I am descended through two of their sons: Jacob �Fallston� Carpenter and
Peter �Hairy� Carpenter. I will gladly exchange information and share
research on these families.
Maridell Fisher Fryar - Midland, TX
jmfryar(a)aol.com
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JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CHECK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
At 08:53 12/11/97 EST, you wrote:
>
>In a message dated 12/11/97 1:48:24 AM, you wrote:
>
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>Here is a good link for CARPENTER & related family research Clik on go to
>home Page to see list of related families also .
>
>
> John Carpenter
> Walpole, NH
>>>
>
>Does anyone know what this is all about? I would be very cautious about
>downloading an unsolicited file.
>
>Thanks, Barb
>
>Dear Barb ,
I am well know in the Carpenter Genealogy circles. Ihave Norton Utilites
operating all the time when I down load . The reason I di the link was we
had some problems linking to this page between the URL given when I open
the page and a different one that some else had when the opened and could
not open it. Here are the URL's
http://w3.gwis.com/~cmcgraw/family/mcgraw/carpenter.htm
the other was similar but without the ( w3.)=
http://gwis.com/~cmcgraw/family/mcgraw/carpenter.htm
Iuse Microsoft Internet Explorer most times But I do Have Netscape
Navigator 3.0
I do not fault you for your caution and by almeans challenge any download
unkown to you as we know there are sinister people on the web.
Happy Holidays from The R.I. Branch
JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CHECK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
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>Oops The John did a wooooops!@@#$$%%
> at the Last URL for carpenter Researches
> it should be :
> http://w3.gwis.com/~cmcgraw/family/mcgraw/carpenter.htm
>
>
>no www
>
>w3.gwis(I think I had the period wrong on #2 Correction)
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JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CHECK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
The good folks who run the whole system which provides space for this
list, Brian Leverich and Karen Isaacson, have advised that we now have
an archive system. This means that you can retrieve old messages.
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl
It does assume you know the name of the list:
CARPENTER-L(a)rootsweb.com
But it's apparently not too, too fussy about how you type it: for our
list, just ask for Carpenter
The archieve includes messages up to about a week ago. New messages
will be added every week or so. They'll have to turn the system search
engine off whenever they re-index, so they will only do it whenever
necessary. If it happens to be down. Just wait a
while and try again.
Chuck
__________________________________
Please visit my website of 23,+ Carpenter and New England Families.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/6712/index.html
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Oops The John did a wooooops!@@#$$%%
at the Last URL for carpenter Researches
it should be :
http://w.3gwis.com/~cmcgraw/family/mcgraw/carpenter.htm
no www
Thanks Jerry
sometimes my finger are ahead of brain.,.,.,.,..,.
JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CHECK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
book mark this link some good info here
JOHN the wild Genie Surfer
JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CHECK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
Here is a good link for CARPENTER & related family research Clik on go to
home Page to see list of related families also .
John Carpenter
Walpole, NH
JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CHECK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
Found this on the Familytreemaker Classifieds. Couldn't remember the year
your William Henry was born so I just copied this to send to you.
Carpenter, John Ad #1602What I know:Born: March 1841 in St. Blazey Parish,
Cornwall, En
Married: 1868-1869
Died: 1910-1920 in Northumberland County, Pennsylva
Spouse: Lane OR Williams, Mary
Children: William Henry Carpenter, John Carpenter, Mary J. Carpenter, Ellen
Carpenter, Amelia Carpenter
Other Information: On the 1881 Census of England & Wales, John Carpenter, 40,
was a tin miner. William, Mary J., John, Jr., and Ellen were "scholars". The
family lived in Linkinhorne Parish. On the 1900 U.S. Census, Northumberland
County, PA, the family rented a home at 14 Seventh Street, Shamokin Borough.
John, 59, was a day laborer who immigrated in 1882. Mary immigrated in 1884,
as did Amelia. Mary
What I would like to find out:John's date of birth, parents, date of marriage,
wife's maiden name. Also, would like to exchange research with anyone in
Cornwall, England or Northumberland County, Pennsylvania.Contact
Information:Salette Latas , Falls Church , United States
latas(a)erols.com
Latas Family Genealogy
Hope it helps.
Donna
Looking for the parents and siblings of a John W. Carpenter b. 6 March 1800 in
Dutchess Co. NY, died. 5 Feb 1900 in Washington Co. Al. He married Margaret
Turner in Lee Co. Alabama in 1831 and moved to Walton Co. Fl. About 1850 he
moved to Washington Co. Al.
Children
Georgian
John R.
David McDavid
Sarah
James C.
William W.
Joseph
Jacob C.
Martin Van Buren
Margaret E.
He may have had a brother named Jacob. The book on Carpenter's of Rehoboth has
a Increase Carpenter with a son John b. 1800 in Dutchess Co. NY, but I cannot
be sure that this is the right one. If someone has any information, please let
me know.
Roy Carpenter
RCar46(a)aol.com
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>>Perhaps the most durable of home sources are pictorial items that
>>depict people as they were: photographs that capture the essence
>>of a lifetime in a second, outlasting the people portrayed. Sometimes
>>family history research results from the need to identify the people
>>in a particularly captivating photograph or to learn what secrets
>>their lives held.
>>
>>Such was the case with one researcher who discovered, amidst
>>several boxes of photographs, an intriguing portrait of a mother
>>and her five children. This print was the key to a series of important
>>discoveries about the finder's family. The photograph held the name
>>and city of the studio in which it was taken. This knowledge led to a
>>death certificate for the woman; one entry provided the city of her
>>birth. This information led the researcher to a search site in a
>>different
>>state, providing a breakthrough to the family's past.
>>
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>>these links to the past and, if you are reasonably skilled or very
>>fortunate, to identify them in time and place. While few clues
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>>decorated and with a hinged cover, protected the plate.
>>
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>>about 1855 into the 1860s. Also mounted in a case, the glass that
>>held the negative was backed with dark paint, cloth, or paper.
>>Often confused with the ambrotype is the tintype, or ferrotype,
>>invented in 1856. In it, a plate of sheet iron holds the image. The
>>tintype was more durable and less expensive than the ambrotype.
>>Tintypes could be placed in cases or even be covered with glass,
>>but more often they were unmounted. Tintypes continued being
>>made into the early 1900s, mostly in rural areas.
>>
>>Carte-de-visite photographs were often displayed in albums on
>>parlor tables after 1860. These paper photographs measured
>>approximately 2 ½ by 4 ¼ inches and were produced in great
>>quantity through about 1890. From about 1870 until 1910, the larger
>>cabinet-size photograph won favor among portrait sitters, and the
>>images of well-known people, such as movie stars, became popular
>>collector's items.
>>
>>Modern gelatin dry plates, first manufactured in the United States
>>in 1878, were slow in winning acceptance, but in 1888 George
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JOHN L. CARPENTER
PO BOX 912
WALPOLE ,NH 03608-0912
BE SURE TO CK MY WEB SITE OF 2.800 CARPENTER DECENDANTS OF WILLIAM
CARPENTER WHO CAME TO PROVIDENCE RI IN 1636
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John--L-Carpenter/index.html
Information
This is the Carpenter Cousins Rootsweb. Since many Zimmermans became Carpenters, Both are discussed here along with related DNA information.