Bill,
I went through your site some more and wanted to let you know that I have birth and
death dates for Speir's on your tree that are from funeral, prayer cards and the
family bible pics.
I know, I need to get a program to put these in ged format. You can look at the
pictures at
http://www.speirfamily.org/pics.html
If you select the large icon, you see the picture full size and where it is legible, I
tried to put the text details in the comments section. You are also welcome to the
pictures if you want them.
I would imagine that the funeral cards are accurate but the bible pages are in many
people's handwriting and are not verified by myself by getting the birth or death
certificates.
Here are some that I have:
James Speirs (Spiers, Speir) b. 1787 Ayrshire, Scotland d. 1841 Kilbirnie, Ayrshire,
Scotland w. Jean (Jane) Mason b. 1797 Dalry, Ayrshire Scotland, m. 12/21/1811 Beith,
Ayrshire, Scotland
William Reid Speir (Spear, Spier) b. 4/23/1820, Beith, Ayrshire, Scotland m. Agnes
Smith Carmichael d. 2/28/1900
James Speir b. 12/16/1846 (1847) Kilbirnie, Scotland, d. 6/16/1913 Kilbirnie,
Ayrshire Scotland w. Charlotte (Lottie) Crossey (m 12/11/1871) b. 7/17/1853 Norville,
Canada (note, I cannot find a Norville, Canada) d. 5/10/1893 2nd w. Mary Tobin (m.
11/30/1897)
William James Speir b. 4/29/1874 Bay City, Michigan d. 1/20/1938 w. Rose
Delima Hebert b. 4/6/1874 d. 10/21/1974
George Thomas Speir b. 11/12/1914 d. 6/26/1970 w. Greta (Lucretia) Benn b.
8/16/1914 d. 4/13/2009
Children of James Speir and Charlotte Crossey married at Trinity Church Bay City, Bay
County, MI Eleventh day of December - 1871
William James Speir b. April 29, 1874 d. January 20, 1938 m. Rose L. Hebert at
Ashtabula, Ohio in Mother of Sorrow Church, on the 9th day of July 1900 Rose: 4-6-1875 -
10-21-1974
Edward Allen Speir (Ted) b. April 19, 1876 d. May 11, 1946 m. Jessie Gagner
Essexville, MI; Jessie Gagner b. 11-3-1878 d. 7-30-1939 (prayer card available)
Mabel Lilliam Speir b. June ??, 1878 d. July 9, 1954 m. Frank J. Haggerty December
15, 1987 Bay City Mich
Frederick Howard Speir b. July 13, 1880 d. September 25, 1944 Bachelor (also prayer
card available)
Bertrand Speir b. April 24, 1883 d. January 25, 1946 m. Pearl Carney Bay City,
MI
Albert Wilfred Speir b. June ??, 1885 d. June 4, 1922 m. Jane Lippy Bay City,
Mich
Herbert Speir b. September 24, 1890 d. January 17, 1891 (4 month infant)
Children of William James Speir and Rose Delima Hebert (I have more details about this
tree)
Charlotte Ruth Speir b Oct 11, 1901 in Bay City, MI d. June 5, 1950 m. Frank Brohl
Mabel Beatrice Speir b. July 28, 1903, Bay City, MI d. 11-23-1977 m. Clarence Slotka
(June 7, 1902 - February 11, 1979)
Herbert James Speir b. August 24, 1905, Detroit, MI Feb 1, 1956 d. August 24, 1905
Detroit, MI
William Francis Speir (Frank) b. April 23, 1908, Detroit, MI d. December 7, 1975
(prayer card available)
George Thomas Speir b. November 12, 1914, Detroit, MI d. 6-20-1970 (this is my father)
William James Speir b. ?? 1916, Detroit, MI d. 6-2-1984
Children of Bertrand Speir and Pearl Helen Carney
Sgt. Robert J. Speir b. December 3, 1917 d. December 4, 1944 (the birth date is
different than your page - from prayer card)
Unknown from prayer card:
Mary Jane Speir b. September 13, 1884 d. August 20, 1954
All the best,
Nancy Speir Bieske
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From: carney-request(a)rootsweb.com <carney-request(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: CARNEY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 66
To: carney(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 3:00 AM
Today's Topics:
1. Brickmason's Sons website updated (Bill Carney)
2. Re: MARY CARNEY (gc-gateway(a)rootsweb.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:49:12 -0400
From: Bill Carney <bill(a)billcarney.com>
Subject: [CARNEY] Brickmason's Sons website updated
To: "CARNEY-L(a)rootsweb.com" <CARNEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
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I've finally updated my Carney-family related website after a long hiatus. My direct
family tree can be found here:
http://genealogy.billcarney.com/macfamilytree/index.html
and includes my Carney ancestors from Shinrone, Ireland and Bay City, Michigan among many
other places. I also have a lot of other information I've gathered over the years at
http://genealogy.billcarney.com/ - feel free to check it out.
Bill Carney
Grand Ledge, Michigan, USA
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:41:45 -0000
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Subject: Re: [CARNEY] MARY CARNEY
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Since your posting of October 2000, have you been able to identify the parents of Mary
Carney married to Henry Murray. I would be interested in any information on her that you
may have gleaned. Thank you. Ruth
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