Carolyn,
I am descended from Richard Carnes b. NJ 1774, d. aft 1850 Hart County
(formerly part of Franklin county) GA. Supposedly, my Richard and your
Wells G. were brothers. But I have seen no proof. Alleged parents are shown
as Peter Carnes b. 1736, Perth Amboy, Middlexex, NJ. Lots of info on this
when you search the internet. Peter Carnes had quite an interesting history
However, there is conflicting information as to Peter's birth year. Last
spring (2009) I visited his restored gravesite in Augusta, GA. The
inscription states he died 23 Jul 1794 at age 46. That puts his birth year
at 1748 or so. But Peter's alleged first wife is Mary Eden Briscoe, b. in
St. Mary's County, MD in about 1773. That date doesn't work at all. Could
be just plain error.
As for Cherokee Indian ancestry, I've seen quite a bit of speculation. I've
got a copy of the Guoin-Miller Eastern Cherokee Application Index from 1909.
There are about 22 Carnes names in the index. I got a copy of the
application from Wilburn Wells Carnes, from NARA, which was denied. Wilburn
Wells, was a brother of your William Redwine. There are old stories I have
read from other Carnes researchers about my ancestor, Richard Carnes being
of Indian blood. Even if he did have Indian blood, it would probably not
have been Cherokee, as our Carnes all emanated from NJ/MD.
Jim Gilmer
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From: Bskwtmu412(a)aol.com
Date: 5/9/2010 12:17:52 PM
To: carnes(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARNES] CARNES Digest, Vol 4,Issue 1/Second Message Carnes
Surname
This is Carolyn Maxey again from Houston,
All that I can tell you about my family is that I do not have a
Christopher Carnes or Ann Thomas or Reason Carnes in my Carnes database. I
have
heard a story about both my mother's parents that my grandfather Killion and
grandmother Carnes were part Cherokee Indian. After my doing the FamilyTree
DNA first and second mutation test I called these folks in Houston and told
them about what I had heard about the Cherokee story and their reply was
that I do not have any Indian blood in my DNA. I called and talked to
several people at the DNA place several times and I heard the same story
twice.
My mtDNA test results indicates that I am of strictly European DNA
lineage, specifically Eastern European DNA lineage. .
I know that all of this is Greek to you as it is for most everyone until
you get into any DNA program. The program that I mentioned to you in my
first message explains all of that information.
I do not have any male Carnes men alive, as far as I know, so unless I run
across a live male relative I will not have any answers for that side of
the family.
I can tell you that I can go back as far as Wells G. Carnes, born 1790 and
died before 27Nov1838. He was married to Elizabeth Linna Lott, born 1774
in Franklin, GA and married before 1813. Then came William Redwine Carnes,
1813-1895, Jasper N. Carnes , 1839-1883, Joseph Abdel Carnes, 1859-1931
and then my grandmother, 1885-1962.
The best thing to do about anyone related to Ann Thomas would be to have a
female on that side of her family do the FamilyTreeDNA test and see what
that tells you. This may be an impossible task finding someone but I would
suggest that because that was the only way that you will find out if any
Cherokee exists. Some old stories get handed down many times that you would
think that is the truth but the DNA test tells the truth.
I hope that I have not bored you with my chatter but just thought I would
cover all of my bases. Frankly, it was good to see a person requesting
info about a Carnes.
Good luck with your search.
Carolyn in Houston, TX
In a message dated 4/26/2010 3:48:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
wk_carnes(a)yahoo.com writes:
only help I can give is she was Native American
Wanda Carnes Stewart
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From: carnes-request(a)rootsweb.com <carnes-request(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: CARNES Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1
To: carnes(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 3:00 AM
Today's Topics:
1. note (gt Carnes)
2. Re: note (jim0400(a)aol.com)
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:38:20 -0400
From: gtcarnes(a)webtv.net (gt Carnes)
Subject: [CARNES] note
To: CARNES(a)rootsweb.com
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I need help with the Christopher Carnes and Ann Thomas line...related to
the Reason Carnes s/o Christopher. Want to know if Ann was a Native
American, all info I have from Reason's grandson and g. grandchildren is
she was Cherokee/ or Native American, born in IL.
@1835/1839??
Gwen
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:01:50 -0400
From: jim0400(a)aol.com
Subject: Re: [CARNES] note
To: carnes(a)rootsweb.com
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I have nothing on this family, sorry.
jim baucom
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