One thing I've learned is to not rule out possibilities. But while some
of my other lines may have gone back and forth up and down the U.S.
coast, I think this SAMUEL CARNE was an English fellow who went back and
forth to England. I'll be posting his will later on; he died in
England, and was a Loyalist whose remaining American holdings were
partially confiscated. So I don't think he landed in Jersey or
Mississippi.
His brother JOHN CARNE, my 7X grandfather, was a little [to say the
least] less ostentatious and much less documented. It looks to me as
though my JOHN CARNE stayed in SC where he was found in the 1790 census
as well as a City Directory or two for Charleston.
JOHN CARNE married MARY HUTCHINSON in 1765 in Charleston, and in an 1801
deed of gift of English inherited property, he names only two children,
my 6X grandmother, ANN CLARKSON CARNE DUBOIS, and her brother, THOMAS
WILLIAM CARNE. All three were living in Charleston at the time.
By 1830, however, ANN CLARKSON CARNE DUBOIS, and her husband, PETER
DUBOIS, had moved on to Perry County, AL, where they both apparently
died soon after the 1840 census. One or two of their children remained
back in SC; at least three and probably four of their children moved to
Alabama; and two are unaccounted for. The rest died young.
At this point, I have nothing further on the descendants of THOMAS
WILLIAM CARNE who was in Charleston still in at least 1802.
I also do not know what eventually happened to SAMUEL CHARLES CARNE, son
of Dr. SAMUEL CARNE. His father's will appears to disown him; I don't
know if this is due to being on opposite sides of the Revolution, or
opposite sides of the ocean, or some other reason.
Finally, I would note that in this family, they consistently spelled
their names CARNE. And they were heavily tied to England.
Based upon all of this, I would doubt a close connection, but again, one
never knows, and I don't close doors of possibilities any longer--having
experienced those doors being slammed in my face a time or two...
Elizabeth
BJBrothers(a)aol.com wrote:
Elizabeth,
Do you know if this Carne has any connections in New Jersey.
My Samuel Swazey Carnes, part of the Jersey Settlers, came from New
Jersey about 1794, to the Natchez, Mississippi area. His great grandmother
was the older sister of the Reverends Samuel and Richard Swazey that
colonized the Natchez area in 1774.
Samuel Swazey Carnes' father, John Carnes born 1735, died in Morris
County, New Jersey. Don't know where he was born. The Mormons have him as
having been born Southold, Long Island---that was where the Swazeys, etc.
came from ---but I have not found any evidence of Long Island and think they
may have assumed that.
Do you of any connections between this Carne and the Carnes I am
describing?
Forgive me if I have asked you this before---am not as organized as I
would like to be about mailing lists.
BJBrothers(a)aol.com