Bille, I cannot, for the life of me, figure out who this "John and Lizzie"
could be. I don't have a "Harris" in my database.
I know that the name "Andrew J.(Jackson)" was common then, but there are a
bunch of those running around at that time. My immediate line of CARNES m:
BURTON from Rabun Co., GA. They migrated to OK abt 1892. My Nancy Minerva
CARNES BURTON had a father named, Andrew Jackson, and had an uncle, Joseph
Henry, who m: Diana Welch. They migrated to OK also. She can be found on the
Guion Miller Rolls and on the internet among the Cherokee records.
These are just clues for you.
My CARNES were Cherokee, according to rejected applications on Guion's Rolls;
and, according to many descendants who have similar stories. Some of he
children and grandchildren of my great grandparents BURTON-CARNES denied,
denied, denied. That happens to be my direct line.
As a child growing up in Tulsa, OK and being indoctrinated in the indian
culture/customs through the schools and the museums, I fell in love with the
idea of being an "indian". I had dark skin and long, straight, BLACK hair
and dreamed of being an indian princess. One day I asked my uncle, who was
visiting in our home, if he didn't think we were "part indian". He said,
"yes"; and my mother pulled me aside and told me never to talk about that
again...... etc. I never mentioned it again until I began my family
research. Her family would write me letters about the CARNES being "Irish".
Well, they may be; but at least one of them married a Cherokee.
Hope somewhere along the line this info helps someone.
Gerre Engard Byrd
>I am seeking information on John and Lizzie Carnes of Indian
Territory
in mid to late 1800's . John had a brother named Harris Carnes. I
found
some wills of Harris Carnes in which he mentions "My neice, Melvina
Goode,wife of John Goode" (my husband's grandparents) in the 1890's in
Blue County, Indian Territory(Now Bryan County , Oklahoma).In the
Probate and Court Records, it also shows where Harris Carnes adopted his
two Illegimate sons, Andrew and John Carnes in Sept. of 1879 and it was
granted in Dec. of 1879. at this time , Andrew was 2 and John was 11
years old.There is also a marriage of Andrew Carnes to Mirdel/Myrtle
Sparks on Dec.25, 1895 at Caddo, Indian Territory. A will of Andrew J
Carnes mentions his interest in the Hogs of the Estate of Harris Carnes,
filed on Dec.11th , 1896. In Feb.of 1885 , Hetty/Piety Carnes petitioned
for divorce from Harris Carnes. In one of his wills on Nov.9th, 1892,
Harris mentions"My beloved wife, Jincy Carnes.I am finding more on
Harris Carnes than I am on John and Lizzie Carnes. All I know about them
is that they were dead by the 1896 Choctaw Census and that they had
lived at Boktuklo. They had a son, Henry Carnes and a daughter , Melvina
M Goode born Nov. of 1963 and died on Jan.10th,1901 in Indian
Territory.She had a child ,James C Killingsworth when she married John
Goode. He later used the surname of Goode also. If anyone has any
information on any of these Carnes would you please share it as maybe it
will lead to further information on John and Lizzie
Carnes. Thanks, Billie>>