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No, I don't think he did. I think that just because he apparently showed a
son named Hugh (if that is what he did) then others picked it up and made that
connection. Either that or Hugh just got added...<g>.
Thanks for the correction - take care - Emma
In a message dated 5/12/2004 6:36:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
hansen8(a)burgoyne.com writes:
Emma - I am not sure that Anjou was the one who first hooked Hugh up into
James' line -are you? I have known people who put him there themselves. I
really would like to get a copy of his Carnahan History so we would know
what we are dealing with. I am always on the lookout. I hope everyone else
will be, too.
HI LuAna,
Yep... have access to the ancestry images and the heritage images. Will see
if I can read it.
I realized on the way home from work today that I sort of didn't answer your
question very well. Can I blame it on the medicine for my upper resp.
infection?.....<g>.
Anyway, in connection to your question about Anjou. As a descendant of Hugh
Carnahan our problem is that Anjou apparently indicated that there was a son
Hugh in this family. I don't think he (Anjou) ever linked that Hugh to our
Hugh but... since the timeline looked good and for lack of any other information
on who Hugh's parents were, over the years folks sort of just linked them up.
And... that is how our line fits into this concern.
At the same time, there is that interesting bit that Linda found in
Pennsylvania. In 1761 where Hugh Kenochan is listed with mail that had not been picked
up at the Philadelphia post office. Linda, I need to go back to your
original message on this one. This spelling doesn't look right so have I messed up
on this one. I thought it had an "r" in it some where?
But... if Andrew was correct in his Rev. War pension application then they
were in Maryland for at least a time. In his application he says that he got
his birth information from his parents and has no other record of it.
Thanks again and I will go check that census.
Take care - Emma
In a message dated 5/12/2004 2:40:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
tutu.lu(a)characterlink.net writes:
It also happens to list occupations but I couldn't make out the occupation
of Martha McKinlay. Do you happen to have access to those census images?
This was the census of 1790 for Philadelphia, Philadelphia Co, PA
Series: M637 Roll: 9 Page: 139
Do you think this Martha McKinlay could be related to Hugh Carnahan's wife
Mary (McKinlay?) perhaps? She would be about the right age.
Just a thought.
Blessings,
LuAna
Emma - I am not sure that Anjou was the one who first hooked Hugh up into
James' line -are you? I have known people who put him there themselves. I
really would like to get a copy of his Carnahan History so we would know
what we are dealing with. I am always on the lookout. I hope everyone else
will be, too.
Here is the excerpt: from Benjamin Franklin's Philadelphia Gazeteer:
"Hugh Kernochan of Pennsylvania" is listed as having mail at the Post Office
2 Feb 1764.
Linda
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> Anyway, in connection to your question about Anjou. As a descendant of
Hugh
> Carnahan our problem is that Anjou apparently indicated that there was a
son
> Hugh in this family.
>
HI LuAna,
Am going to "intrude" a bit here...<g>.
So far we haven't been able to connect our Hugh Carnahan and Mary to the
Pennsylvania Carnahan lines.
Linda did find an entry for a Hugh who had a letter left in Philadelphia.
But we don't know for sure that was our Hugh.
I have always wondered if we won't end up hunting something in Maryland.
First of all, Andrew says he was born in Baltimore Co., Maryland. That from his
Rev. War pension application. And then there are the Billingsley and Tennison
connections. Both the Billingsley folks and the Tennison folks came from
Maryland. And.. when you look at the names associated with our Carnahan folks in
Guilford Co., NC, many of those families also came from Maryland.
Just another thought...<g>.
Take care - Emma
In a message dated 5/12/2004 11:15:54 AM Central Daylight Time,
tutu.lu(a)characterlink.net writes:
How does my line fit in here then with this "Anjou" questionable data?
Please forgive me for my confusion. My line is:
?James Carnahan born October 19, 1692 Legoniel, County Antrim, Ireland? [not
sure if he's the father of Hugh]
Hugh Carnahan born about 1730 Scotland(?) and Mary (McKinlay?) born about
1732 Baltimore Co, MD [5th G-Grandparents]
Andrew Carnahan born 1762 Baltimore, MD and Elizabeth Billingsley born 1762
Davidson Co, TN [4th G-Grandparents]
LuAna -
Your information from Hugh on down is okay. I don't believe that Anjou
"worked" on Hugh's line. But I also have to say that I don't believe there
is evidence connecting Hugh to James' line. He was born in the right time
period - but he is not to be found anywhere in Pennsylvania where these
other families lived. It is possible that he was very independent and set
out on his own and never had much contact with his family again - but the
Scotch-Irish usually stayed in very tight family groups. There is also the
fact that my Carnahans used naming patterns - they usually named children
after each other. For example - Adam Carnahan is a Carnahan name that is
used almost exclusively among the Pennsylvania Carnahans - and for
generations and generations. There are not a huge amount of Carnahans named
Hugh. Only 2 or 3 - and only one of those can be connected to the early
Pennsylvania Carnahans (he was named after his mother's (non- Carnahan)
side.)
I have always been a little curious about Hugh Carnahan's wife Mary.
They met and got married somewhere - her location may be a good way to find
out his. It may be fun to research anyway. : ) Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: "TutuLu" <tutu.lu(a)characterlink.net>
> Linda,
> How does my line fit in here then with this "Anjou" questionable data?
> Please forgive me for my confusion. My line is:
>
> If I am understanding correctly, your line came to USA earlier than my
line
> did, right?
> Thank you, LuAna
>
>
Linda,
How does my line fit in here then with this "Anjou" questionable data?
Please forgive me for my confusion. My line is:
?James Carnahan born October 19, 1692 Legoniel, County Antrim, Ireland? [not
sure if he's the father of Hugh]
Hugh Carnahan born about 1730 Scotland(?) and Mary (McKinlay?) born about
1732 Baltimore Co, MD [5th G-Grandparents]
Andrew Carnahan born 1762 Baltimore, MD and Elizabeth Billingsley born 1762
Davidson Co, TN [4th G-Grandparents]
John Carnahan born 1788 Davidson Co, TN and Sarah Dickey born 1787 AL [3rd
G-Grandparents]
If I am understanding correctly, your line came to USA earlier than my line
did, right?
Thank you, LuAna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hansen" <hansen8(a)burgoyne.com>
To: <CARNAHAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: [CARNAHAN-L] Anjou and the Carnahans
> Phil -
> The information I gave on Anjou applies only to the lines of William,
John, James and Joseph of early Pennsylvania. As I mentioned before to
Norman - not everyone descends from these lines. Actually I believe most
people don't. I bet if we had a roll call of those who descend from those
lines it would be extremely small. Many belong to the Blockhouse Carnahan
families (my other Carnahan line) and many belong to Hugh's line. There are
dozens of Carnahans that came over later. I have never seen any indication
that Anjou tampered with those lines at all. I don't want people out there
thinking that their Carnahan information is not correct. Anjou was working
for JVT - JVT had the money. As I said before JVT descends from James
Carnahan so that was the line Anjou was "working" on. If I didn't descend
from one of the above brothers - I wouldn't worry about it at all.
>
> For my part, I would be happy to share what I have with anyone else that
descends from these lines. I have been working on these lines and allied
families for about 20 years so I have a lot of good documentation. I tend
to stick to my own lines, though - so my research is on the brothers above
and their descendants; and the Carnahans of Westmoreland PA and surrounding
counties. Linda
>
>
>
>
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Darrell - Now you know why I was hesitant yesterday. : ) It took me a while to change my mindset. It's hard. My reaction was about like yours when my friend pulled those signatures for me and sent them. But it is really hard to duplicate a signature . . .
It is the earlier generations that are the problem. Because if you accept the birth dates etc - then it seems like there should be two separate families. I would be suspicious of any birth or marriage dates that couldn't be backed up with a document. Anjou was very good at making those up. (The Jack family has been going through this for years.)
You have a lot of great information here. The information on the later generations should be okay. If you have documentation on it, I would go with it. A couple of things on the earlier one: I don't think Hugh fits here - I know others disagree - but I don't think the evidence is there for him to be included. I also think that Alexander came over later - after the Rev. War - maybe someone else knows off-hand. James probably died in Cumberland County Pennsylvania. I don't have evidence of Hannah Powers . . .There was a Powers family nearby but Anjou did that - he connected them with likely families and made up the details.
Like I said earlier - this only effects William, John, James and Joseph and their families. This family is probably the worst because it was JVT's line. (To JVT's credit - he did become suspicious of Anjou.)
I hope that helps some. Linda
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Emma - I know who John isn't. : ) That narrows it down a little. We know that in October 1741 - John and Mary were under 14 and Jane was over 14. He is possibly the John of York County, Pennsylvania who was robbed. That John was fairly wealthy and prominent for a young man. His age fits. Other people from the Octorara area were living in the same area of York County so it is a possibility. It needs more research.
I believe Mary is the Mary Carnahan who married Joseph Brady. As well as the age fitting well - the circumstantial evidence is also good that she belongs here.
I hope that helps. Linda
Phil -
The information I gave on Anjou applies only to the lines of William, John, James and Joseph of early Pennsylvania. As I mentioned before to Norman - not everyone descends from these lines. Actually I believe most people don't. I bet if we had a roll call of those who descend from those lines it would be extremely small. Many belong to the Blockhouse Carnahan families (my other Carnahan line) and many belong to Hugh's line. There are dozens of Carnahans that came over later. I have never seen any indication that Anjou tampered with those lines at all. I don't want people out there thinking that their Carnahan information is not correct. Anjou was working for JVT - JVT had the money. As I said before JVT descends from James Carnahan so that was the line Anjou was "working" on. If I didn't descend from one of the above brothers - I wouldn't worry about it at all.
For my part, I would be happy to share what I have with anyone else that descends from these lines. I have been working on these lines and allied families for about 20 years so I have a lot of good documentation. I tend to stick to my own lines, though - so my research is on the brothers above and their descendants; and the Carnahans of Westmoreland PA and surrounding counties. Linda
I have naturalization papers on a william Alexander Carnahan--I,ll look up
the information and post it. Bob Carnahan
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From: "TutuLu" <tutu.lu(a)characterlink.net>
To: <CARNAHAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [CARNAHAN-L] Re: James Alexander CARNAHAN born July 1, 1719,
Legoniel, County Antrim, Ireland
> Very helpful. Thank you so much! LuAna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <hansen8(a)burgoyne.com>
> To: <CARNAHAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:04 PM
> Subject: [CARNAHAN-L] Re: James Alexander CARNAHAN born July 1, 1719,
> Legoniel, County Antrim, Ireland
>
>
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> > Message Board Post:
> >
> > LuAna - I'll give it a try.
> >
> > I think Anjou probably made these dates up. I had the Medieval Division
at
> the FHL in Salt Lake working with me for 1 1/2 years trying to verify
these
> dates in Ireland and they couldn't do it. So I am skeptical about them.
> >
> > James Carnahan ( I have never seen the middle name of Alexander in any
> document) b. before 1711 (over 21 in 1732) Ireland m. ? - there is no
> evidence that I know that gives a wife's name for him except JVT's Anjou
> record. We may find one. It is likely not Hannah. The references I have
> found in Cumberland County to Hannah involve Hannah Mahan wife of Capt.
> James Carnahan - this man's son. James died after 1780 and sometime
before
> the 1789 church canvas of Cumberland County, PA.
> >
> > I believe these children are proven for him:
> >
> > Adam Carnahan m. Agnes Jack
> > Capt. James Carnahan m. Hannah Mahan
> > John Carnahan m. Rebecca Caruthers (JV Thompson's line)
> > Elizabeth Carnahan m. William McFarlane
> >
> > Undoubtedly there are others - but I think these are the only ones prove
n.
> >
> > Jane Carnahan who married James Jack (my line) has traditionally been
> thought to be James' daughter - but I think it is likely she was really
the
> daughter of his brother John Carnahan and wife Jane. John had proven
> children Jane, John and Mary who were orphaned. There is circumstantial
> evidence that James and his wife raised John's children. Jane's age fits
> dead-on with the age that we know John's daughter Jane was.
> >
> > I hope that helps some. Linda
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
I,m connecting the Mitchell line to the Carnahan line-location of Mitchell,s
in the 1700,s Bob Carnahan
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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: [CARNAHAN-L] Re: John Mitchell
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>
> Bob,
> Please forgive me, but I'm totally confused by this post. Could you
explain it a little better.
> Sorry
>
>
>
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Linda,
Re the children for John Carnahan and Jane:
Jane
John
Mary
Do you know anything about John and Mary's families?
Thanks and take care - Emma
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Bob,
Me again. Which John Carnahan married Elizabeth MaClean on 1 Oct 1770. Is this the brother of Andrew Carnaghan?
Sorry again on not understanding.
Thanks
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Bob,
Please forgive me, but I'm totally confused by this post. Could you explain it a little better.
Sorry
Hi Linda,
With this excerpt from the JVT Journals, I can't deny that there is a
Anjou Carnahan genealogy floating around somewhere. I
downloaded the whole of Vol. 20 and there are 22 citations of
Anjou's name associated with many different lines, including
Carnahan.
The next question is, how much of what we all have is based on this
work? And how can we verify the early data and overcome these
possible errors.
I have been discussing this and some other items with a number
of others off this list. Norman put forth an idea I believe would
probably help us in solving this potential problem.
Forgive me Norman for quoting your idea, but I believe it may be
the way to proceed.
Norman speaks about a, "group who would take just one or two
items, like the Jane question and/or the Cape Henlopen ship question,
and focus on them ... until we have exhausted the leads ... then, take
one or two more issues, and work that way." He goes on to say, "If
we try to tackle the entire heap, we must be satisfied with what we
get. But, if we focus on a smaller heap, we may be surprised what we
find."
Depending on who is where and what we have access to, I believe
if we work on the problems as stated above, we should be able to
solve the problems and eventually end up with a body of work we
can all be proud of.
As just one example, the marriage of Jane Carnaghan and Josiah
Brown. Has anyone see the actual document this marriage came
from. I don't mean the book of Pennsylvania Marriages Prior to
1810, but the record as cited in that book from the Pennsylvania
Archives, Series 2, Vols. VIII and IX (1880)? That is what we
need to work at.
I know everything I have in my database on the early Carnahans
is based of secondary information. I have never seen any, nor
verified that anyone I have received data from has actually looked at
primary documentation on the earliest Carnahans. My source says
I got it from so and so, and they tell me they got it from so and so,
etc., etc., etc.
How about it folks, think we can put together an operation like
this????
Phil Carnahan
Ukiah, CA
http://www.pacificsites.net/~pcarna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hansen" <hansen8(a)burgoyne.com>
To: <CARNAHAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [CARNAHAN-L] Anjou and the Carnahans
> Hi Phil - I have talked to the Fraudulent Lineages people. They
> told me a year or two ago that the Carnahan lineage looks like
> Anjou. However - the actual document is probably still in
> someone's basement or attic. Unlike some of Anjou's works that
> were in libraries - I haven't found a copy yet.
> It looks like J.V. Thompson had a copy - actually he probably paid
> for Anjou to do it - as Anjou did work for him on the Jacks and
> Thompsons, too. He gave Cora Lynn Davis (b. 1863) an outline of
> it. Her name is on the outline that I have. Here is how we know
> there is a Carnahan History by Anjou:
>
> Josiah VanKirk Thompson Journals, Volume 20, p 359:
> "A letter dated Mch 8, 1927 from Chas A. Hanna no 15
> Rockledge Road, Montclair NJ call my attention to an error in my
> letter of June 24, 1924 to him, in which I gave Hannah Power as
> marrying Mch 11, 1740 1st James Carnahan b 1719 ob 1788 2d
> Rev Jacob Jennings which I copied from Anjou' s Carnahan
> History page 102 where as this Hannah married Capt James
> Carnahan born 1743 a son of the 1719 James. He gives 1788 as
> date of death of this James whereas that was the year his son Capt
> James was drowned in Allegheny River & Anjou says he died in
> 1795 another error. His father may have died then. Anjou has them
> woefully confused. Mr Hanna says the tombstone at Dunlaps creek
> g.y. which I no doubt have, says that Hannah Jennings was born
> 1749 & died in 1838 aged 89. While Rev Jacob Jennings was born
> 1743. He thinks & rightfully that this Hannah was the wife of Capt
> James who was drowned in the Allegheny River in 1788."
>
> I think Anjou's work has confused our thinking on the Carnahans
> for about a century. Hopefully we can all do good research to
> overcome it.
>
> I hope that helps. Linda
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip D. Carnahan" <pcarna(a)pacific.net>
> To: <CARNAHAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [CARNAHAN-L] Jane Carnahan and her brothers?
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
>
> > There are some 30 pages of material on the Fraudulent Lineages
> > web site, so reading it all will take some time. While there are
> > surnames listed that look familiar, the is no listing for the surname
> > CARNAHAN under any of it's spellings.
>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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LuAna - I'll give it a try.
I think Anjou probably made these dates up. I had the Medieval Division at the FHL in Salt Lake working with me for 1 1/2 years trying to verify these dates in Ireland and they couldn't do it. So I am skeptical about them.
James Carnahan ( I have never seen the middle name of Alexander in any document) b. before 1711 (over 21 in 1732) Ireland m. ? - there is no evidence that I know that gives a wife's name for him except JVT's Anjou record. We may find one. It is likely not Hannah. The references I have found in Cumberland County to Hannah involve Hannah Mahan wife of Capt. James Carnahan - this man's son. James died after 1780 and sometime before the 1789 church canvas of Cumberland County, PA.
I believe these children are proven for him:
Adam Carnahan m. Agnes Jack
Capt. James Carnahan m. Hannah Mahan
John Carnahan m. Rebecca Caruthers (JV Thompson's line)
Elizabeth Carnahan m. William McFarlane
Undoubtedly there are others - but I think these are the only ones proven.
Jane Carnahan who married James Jack (my line) has traditionally been thought to be James' daughter - but I think it is likely she was really the daughter of his brother John Carnahan and wife Jane. John had proven children Jane, John and Mary who were orphaned. There is circumstantial evidence that James and his wife raised John's children. Jane's age fits dead-on with the age that we know John's daughter Jane was.
I hope that helps some. Linda
Very helpful. Thank you so much! LuAna
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Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:04 PM
Subject: [CARNAHAN-L] Re: James Alexander CARNAHAN born July 1, 1719,
Legoniel, County Antrim, Ireland
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>
> LuAna - I'll give it a try.
>
> I think Anjou probably made these dates up. I had the Medieval Division at
the FHL in Salt Lake working with me for 1 1/2 years trying to verify these
dates in Ireland and they couldn't do it. So I am skeptical about them.
>
> James Carnahan ( I have never seen the middle name of Alexander in any
document) b. before 1711 (over 21 in 1732) Ireland m. ? - there is no
evidence that I know that gives a wife's name for him except JVT's Anjou
record. We may find one. It is likely not Hannah. The references I have
found in Cumberland County to Hannah involve Hannah Mahan wife of Capt.
James Carnahan - this man's son. James died after 1780 and sometime before
the 1789 church canvas of Cumberland County, PA.
>
> I believe these children are proven for him:
>
> Adam Carnahan m. Agnes Jack
> Capt. James Carnahan m. Hannah Mahan
> John Carnahan m. Rebecca Caruthers (JV Thompson's line)
> Elizabeth Carnahan m. William McFarlane
>
> Undoubtedly there are others - but I think these are the only ones proven.
>
> Jane Carnahan who married James Jack (my line) has traditionally been
thought to be James' daughter - but I think it is likely she was really the
daughter of his brother John Carnahan and wife Jane. John had proven
children Jane, John and Mary who were orphaned. There is circumstantial
evidence that James and his wife raised John's children. Jane's age fits
dead-on with the age that we know John's daughter Jane was.
>
> I hope that helps some. Linda
>
>
>
Hi All,
Since this is new for me, I had to jump in here. This is the first time
I have heard that the early Carnahan lineages might be false and
attributed to GUSTAVE ANJOU (1863-1942).
I have pretty much shied away from the early Carnahan stuff because
so much of it didn't seem to fit together very well and all the James,
Johns, Alexanders and other really confused this old brain of mine
(or at least what is left of it).
In searching the web for more information I found the following web
site which has a lot of information. I haven't read through it all yet,
but I plan to. I got the URL from an article written by Myra
Vanderpool Gormley, CG at this URL
http://www.all-genealogy.com/articles/genealogy-fraud.htm
There are some 30 pages of material on the Fraudulent Lineages
web site, so reading it all will take some time. While there are
surnames listed that look familiar, the is no listing for the surname
CARNAHAN under any of it's spellings.
If anyone knows which lineage included in this list contains
CARNAHANs, please let me know so that I can look for more
information on this potential problem.
Thanks.
Phil Carnahan
Ukiah, CA
http://www.pacificsites.net/~pcarna
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>
> Darrell - I hesitate to say it - but I will and then everyone can
> decide.
>
> I think that early Carnahan information (before immigration to
> America) is all forged by Anjou. He took actual information and
> twisted it. I feel somewhat responsible for it - since I was the one
> who sent it to Linda Nelsen and put it on familysearch. I wish I
> could delete it. I have deleted it from my database.
>
> For a while I wondered if some of it may be true. But I have
> found almost none of it to be true - for example, the Jannys. There
> was a Joseph Janny who was a pioneer in this country-coincidently
> (Anjou was very smart) he was the right age to be father of
> Margaret Janny who married James Carnahan. His wife was
> Margaret - they did not have a daughter Margaret as far as is
> known. They were English Quakers and not a very good match for
> a Scotch-Irish family like the Carnahans.
>
> Another flaw is James Carnahan who married Hannah Powers. I
> have long wondered if someone mixed up the names because
> Hannah Mahan was the name of the wife of Capt. James
> Carnahan. Now it appears that there is an entire generation that
> doesn't exist. James Carnahan who was supposed to have married
> Margaret Janny and James Carnahan who supposedly married
> Hannah Powers are the same person. I have always been
> concerned that the first James disappeared without a trace, so we
> compared signatures. The signatures of James of Octorara (m.
> Margaret Janny) and James of Cumberland Co. (m. Hannah
> Power) even 40 years apart - are exactly the same -which leaves a
> lot of questions about wives, children and birth years etc.
>
> I guess the bottom line is that I have learned to mistrust Anjou's
> information completely. Linda
>
>