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No, I,m not from Tenn. I represent the Illinois branch of Carnahan,s --Aaron Carnahan settled in Ohio and his son James Harvey Carnahan moved to Illinois to farm, my middle name was given to me by my father after his fathers grandfather--Robert Harvey Carnahan. So Bob Carnahan, Benjamine Carnahan, Charles Walter Carnahan, Benjamine Carnahan, James Harvey Carnahan, John Aaron Carnahan. Illinois to Ohio! Bob C.
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Yes, I would like to discuss this confusion from a point of view that two Johns could not live so far apart as to be confused in the history books, they did not have rapid transportation but they did migrate. So lets look at the naming point-First son after the father , first daughter after the mother, on and on and on, naming there children after there ancesters--my point is my branch has unusual names, like Ferguson, Aaron, I,m talking about the late 1700,s early 1800,s I,ve traced down some very unusual stories and I have one for the John Carnahan in Indiana. While we are at it has anyone located a Albert Carnahan, b 1798 in MacDonough Co. lived in Galesburg untill 1800 then vanished with his mother, Edwina Gilworth Carnahan? I,ll dig out my notes. Andrew Carnahan died at his daughters, Mary Carnahan Youree--buryed on the farm, only grave there. Bob Carnahan
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Yes, I have the same information, sad but true, Andrews military papers are missing from the archives and his first wife died, he remarried and the tree got all messed up, even in the history books--does your John have a son David? I have read about your John, have papers on him, each Carnahan generation had at least one preacher in it. What ship /port did your Hugh Carnahan arrive in? From Antrim Ireland possibable? How far back do you go? Bob C.
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Thanks Norman,
But I could sure use some help with the docs on this line. Could you please help.
Thanks - Emma
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I certainly do not plan to get into another discussion of which John is which. I've been through that for 35 years. Some very good researchers have come to the same conclusion but I will say that as far as I am personally am concerned, the John Carnahan buried in Mt. Zion cemetery in Warrick county, In., has a middle name of Franklin, and he is the son of Andrew and Elizabeth Billingsley and a grandson of Hugh.
Hugh Carnahan md. Mary Finley. the had four children.Andrew,Sarah,John and Mary. The son John was the Rev. John Carnahan who moved to Arkansas. He married Janet Billingsley.(-Elizabeth Billingsley's sister.)
Some years ago, Mel Murry, a Carnahan researcher, while researching the Rev. John Carnahan, discovered some data in No. Alalbama showing this John Carnahan and using Franklin as his middle name. He had a son named James Porter Carnahan and later this James Porter Carnahan moved to Warrick county Indiana and later moved his father and mother John and Sarah there also.
N. Carnahan
Rod,
Adam Carnahan (b. 1743) had a wife named Sara or Sarah, but we do not yet
know her surname. Some say it was Kennedy or Collins or something like
that. They named one of their sons "Kennedy Carnahan". As to the name
Sarah, my g-g-g-grandfather, "Louisiana John", named his second daughter
"Sarah", following the Scots-Irish tradition of naming the second daughter
after the father's mother. John's brother, Matthew, named his second
daughter "Sarah". Although that is not proof, it is a good indication that
the wife of Adam (b.1743) was named Sarah. We still have nothing definite
about her surname, though. I believe (with no proof, as yet) that her
surname was "Kennedy", based on the name that they gave one of their sons.
I presume that you refer to Adam's father, John, when you say that there
were two Sara's. The Sara/Sarah that is listed as wife of John, father of
Adam (b. 1743), is someone about whom I know almost nothing, so far.
At 08:34 AM 06/17/2003, you wrote:
>norm - didn't realize we had two sara's -?? wifes adam and john
>
>Rod Carnahan
>537 El Paso St.
>Jacksonville, Texas 75766-2532
>903/586/1355
>
>"In Life as in Genealogy -
> you never know who your
> benefactor will be"
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Norman F Carnahan" <carnahan(a)ghg.net>
>To: <CARNAHAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:08 AM
>Subject: [CARNAHAN-L] 1810 - John Carnahan
>
>
> >
> > Good morning, Emma
> >
> > I forgot to also mention that the John Carnahan in your note was a son of
> > Adam Carnahan (b. 1743; d. 1825) of Westmoreand County, PA.
> >
> > Adam Carnahan (1743) died on or about 7 December 1815. His wife, Sara,
> > survived him and died in 1842. Upon her death, the children began the
> > Orphans Court proceedings.
> >
> > "At an orphans Court held at Greensburgh in and for Westmoreland County
>the
> > 22d day Of August in the year of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and
> > forty two ..."
> >
> > In the Orphans Court documents, relating to the disposition of his estate,
> > there is specific mention of Adam's son, John, "who went to Natchez ..."
> >
> > Adam Carnahan and his wife are buried at Poke Run Cemetery, Westmoreland
> > County, Pennsylvania and his grave is marked with a William Kenley Chapter
> > DAR marker.
> >
Good morning, Emma
I forgot to also mention that the John Carnahan in your note was a son of
Adam Carnahan (b. 1743; d. 1825) of Westmoreand County, PA.
Adam Carnahan (1743) died on or about 7 December 1815. His wife, Sara,
survived him and died in 1842. Upon her death, the children began the
Orphans Court proceedings.
"At an orphans Court held at Greensburgh in and for Westmoreland County the
22d day Of August in the year of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and
forty two ..."
In the Orphans Court documents, relating to the disposition of his estate,
there is specific mention of Adam's son, John, "who went to Natchez ..."
Adam Carnahan and his wife are buried at Poke Run Cemetery, Westmoreland
County, Pennsylvania and his grave is marked with a William Kenley Chapter
DAR marker.
Thanks so much for that.
Am trying to sort of figure out all these "John Carnahan" folks.
Thanks again and take care - Emma
In a message dated 6/15/2003 1:16:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
carnahan(a)ghg.net writes:
> Good morning, Emma
>
> That John Carnahan is my g-g-g-grandfather (1779 Washington Twp,
> Westmoreland County, PA), who came from PA as part of a militia sent by the
> US to the newly acquired Louisiana Territory. He is mentioned in the
> Territorial Papers of The United States, in a document dated 27 November
> 1805, as part of a militia unit assigned to the Western District of Orleans
> (as the lower portion of the Louisiana Territory was then called). He
> married Mercy Harrison, on 9 October 1808, near Natchez, Mississippi
> Territory. They first lived just across the Mississippi River from
> Natchez, in what is referred to as Concordia, Louisiana in your
> note. Problems with river pirates and such, along the Mississippi River
> caused them to seek land further away from the Mississippi River. They
> ultimately moved to an area near Alexandria, Louisiana, along the Red
> River/Cane River. The original Louisiana Carnahan line descends from John
> Carnahan and his wife, Mercy Harrison.
>
>
In a message dated 6/15/2003 9:30:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
pcarna(a)pacific.net writes:
> The second family group sheet was filled out by Linda Nelson and
> Sandra Benham in 1988. It lists these wives for James Porter
> Carnahan: (1) Martha Bell, (2) Hannah Gentry, (3) Emily.Millie
> Harris, and (4) Fanny Phelps.
>
> Marriage dates given for the above marriages are as follows:
> (1) Martha Bell, 1 Apr 1831, Gibson Co., TN
> (2) Hannah Gentry, 13 Mar 1850, Gibson Co., IN
> (3) Emily.Millie Harris, 25 April 1854, Gibson Co., IN
> (4) Fanny Phelps, 1867 (no location)
>
>
Thanks so much Phil,
I do appreciate that. I had him with 3 wives but was missing that one.
Thanks again and take care - Emma
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Hi Bob and Norman,
I descend from Andrew through his son Hugh. I have sort of stayed away from working on John because it was always so confusing. Do you suppose if everyone puts what they have together we could figure out these two John Carnahans???
I have seen a report of a 1857 document of the estate of Andrew where it lists these folks:
John W. Conley, executor of Andrew Carnahan vs James Carnahan, Sarah Carnahan, Elizabeth Carnahan, Abraham Carnahan, John Carnahan, J. Carnahan, Nancy Carnahan, James Carnahan Jr. Hiram Carnahan, Mary Carnahan, John carnahan, William Yourie, Francis Yourie, andrew Yourie, Adeline Yourie, James Yourie, David Yourie, William Yourie Jr., Joseph Yourie, Thomas Yourie, Isabella Yourie, Philander Alexander Yourie, Martha Yourie, P. Yourie, Finis Yourie, Ewen Yourie, and Thomas Carnahan.
Taken in order these folks are possibly:
James Carnahan - son of Andrew
Sarah Carnahan - 2nd wife of Andrew
Elizabeth Carnahan - wd of Hugh Carnahan, s/o Andrew
Abraham Carnahan - not sure who this is
John Carnahan - son of Andrew
J. Carnahan - not sure who this is
Nancy Carnahan, James Carnahan Jr. Hiram Carnahan, Mary Carnahan, John Carnahan - These folks appear to be children of Hugh Carnahan but some are missing.
William Yourie, Francis Yourie, andrew Yourie, Adeline Yourie, James Yourie, David Yourie, William Yourie Jr., Joseph Yourie, Thomas Yourie, Isabella Yourie, Philander Alexander Yourie, Martha Yourie, P. Yourie, Finis Yourie, Ewen Yourie - Andrew's daug. Mary md William Youree. This list would appear to be her husband and children although the list of names doesn't exactly match the list that Youree researchers have
Thomas Carnahan - son of Andrew
Another way to look at this list is:
James Carnahan - son of Andrew
Sarah Carnahan - 2nd wife of Andrew
Elizabeth Carnahan, Abraham Carnahan, John Carnahan, J. Carnahan, Nancy Carnahan, James Carnahan Jr. Hiram Carnahan, Mary Carnahan - If this section of the list represents descendants of Hugh then... it would represent a more complete listing of Hugh's children. Abraham could be the male listed in the 1820 census but missing in the 1830 census and the J. Carnahan could be Jane.
John carnahan - son of Andrew
William Yourie, Francis Yourie, andrew Yourie, Adeline Yourie, James Yourie, David Yourie, William Yourie Jr., Joseph Yourie, Thomas Yourie, Isabella Yourie, Philander Alexander Yourie, Martha Yourie, P. Yourie, Finis Yourie, Ewen Yourie - Descendants of Mary Carnahan & William Youree
Thomas Carnahan - s/o Andrew
I guess one of my first questions would be - what links one of the John Carnahan's with Andrew?
And... is anyone besides me interested in moving this discussion to the Carnahan mail list???
Thanks and take care - Emma
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First--are you the Bob Carnahan from Mt. Joliet, Tn?
Yes--I would like to see a copy of your information.. Please.
carneyc
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John Franklynnn Carnahan is not the son of Andrew Carnahan--this is the confusion, John and Sarah Dickey Carnahan belong to James Carnahan who drown in the river- will find material and send copy if you would like one. Bob Carnahan
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I have Hugh Carnahn br. abt. 1730 md Mary Finley daug.of David Finley. Children Andrew,Sarah,John,Mary.
Andrew md. Elizabeth Billingsley daug James Billingsley
children Hugh, James,John (Franklin), Thomas, Ann,Mary.
John Franklin Carnahan md. Sarah Dickey.
John Franklin Carnahan br. Tenn/Va. Oct.5,1787 d. Feb.11,1845--lived most of his life in Indiana. burried Mt. Zion ceme. Warrick Co. Indiana.
This John is often confused with John Aaron Carnahan. I believe John Aaron married Elvira Mitchell and lived out his life mainly
in Ohio.
Morning Everyone,
Would just like to check with all of you and see if any of you know who this
John Carnahan is.
1810 Census - Concordia, Louisiana - pg. 149
John Carnahan 000101 00101
Am wondering if this area is really in what is now Arkansas.
Thanks and take care - Emma
Good morning, Emma
That John Carnahan is my g-g-g-grandfather (1779 Washington Twp,
Westmoreland County, PA), who came from PA as part of a militia sent by the
US to the newly acquired Louisiana Territory. He is mentioned in the
Territorial Papers of The United States, in a document dated 27 November
1805, as part of a militia unit assigned to the Western District of Orleans
(as the lower portion of the Louisiana Territory was then called). He
married Mercy Harrison, on 9 October 1808, near Natchez, Mississippi
Territory. They first lived just across the Mississippi River from
Natchez, in what is referred to as Concordia, Louisiana in your
note. Problems with river pirates and such, along the Mississippi River
caused them to seek land further away from the Mississippi River. They
ultimately moved to an area near Alexandria, Louisiana, along the Red
River/Cane River. The original Louisiana Carnahan line descends from John
Carnahan and his wife, Mercy Harrison.
At 12:43 PM 06/15/2003, you wrote:
>Morning Everyone,
>
>Would just like to check with all of you and see if any of you know who this
>John Carnahan is.
>
>1810 Census - Concordia, Louisiana - pg. 149
>John Carnahan 000101 00101
>
>Am wondering if this area is really in what is now Arkansas.
>Thanks and take care - Emma
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Yes, I have the legal papers from a land/sale court hearing that John Aaron Carnahan had, he is address as John Carnahan and as Aaron Carnahan depending on who is speaking to him. Riddle I uncovered in 1996. Bob C.
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Hi Bob,
I would be interested in that Carnahan/Billingsley auction deal. I don't believe I have seen that. I do have a copy of a 1817 land sale that mentions the heirs of James Billingsley, decd, from Logan Co., Ky.
Also, there seems to be some discussion about your John Aaron although I am not sure I fully understand all the angles yet... <g>.
Andrew Carnahan and Elizabeth Billingsley had a son John Carnahan who married Sarah Dickey and apparently ended up in Indiana. Is this the John you are talking about? Can you help with how his middle name was identified?
Take care - Emma
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Hi Emma, I traced Carnahan/ Billingsley to a land auction of 1000 acres, list them as heirs but have found nothing further. My line is from John Aaron Carnahan. I have not done much research for several years but have unraveled some misterys on my line. Also looking for a Mary Olive Carnahan, one of my great Aunts, found her in Industry Illinois, at age 16, moved out west at an early age! I beleave Colorado, no proof as yet. Bob Carnahan
I would imagine that all of you have now figured that I am fooling around
today with Indiana Census records.
James Porter Carnahan - Montgomery, Gibson Co., Indiana - pg. 49B
James P. Carnahan - 39 - farmer - Ky
Hanah - 45 - Ky
elizabeth - 15 - Tn
John E. - 12 - Tn
Sarah - 9 - Tn
Wm - 7 - Ia/In
Mathew - 5 - Ia/In
Marion M. - 4 - Ia/In
Nancy H. - 2 - Ia/In
Thomas Noles - 6 - Ia/In
Nancy C. Wallace - 16 - Ia/In
James - 12 - Ia/In
Sarah - 10 - Ia/In
F(T)elitha - 7 - Ia/In
First of all - am about to decide that what looks like Ia in the census is
really In. At least in the another township that is what it appears to be.
Then.... Who is Hanah. That isn't the name I have seen for one of his wives.
Is this another wife or just another name for one of his other wives?
Who is the Thomas Noles, age 6 and the Wallace children listed with him? Are
they by any chance step children from one of his marriages?..... or if not,
does anyone know what relation they might have to James?
Thanks so much and take care - Emma
In a message dated 6/14/2003 10:37:11 AM Central Daylight Time, ENC6(a)aol.com
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> Jackson and the two lines with no name are on page 10A. Nancy, Sarah, and
> James are on pg. 10B. I think I am reading the state as Ia correctly but
> would
> sure like someone else's opinion as well.
>
> Can any of you help interprete this record?????
>
> Thanks so much - Emma
>
>
Ok... am going to respond to my own message... <g>.
After looking at anothe township it looks as if those two "no name" lines at
the bottom of the page might be where the census taker is "counting" the
number of males and females on that page. So it appears that for that page there
were 21 males and 19 females listed.
So... now the question is? Who is Nancy? Is she one of Jackson S.
Carnahan's wives? From what I understand he had several.
Thanks and take care - Emma