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Surnames: Carmichael, Speer, Spear, Thompson
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
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Message Board Post:
Does anyone have Kellie's new email address -- the Prodigy one given in her 2000
message is no longer valid?
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Kellie, Hopefully you are still checking the Board. Here's my email query: I am very
intersted in finding out more about your Speer / Carmichael descendancy. My 3rd great
grandfather (William Houston Thompson) was married to a Mary Ann OR Malvina SPEAR/SPEER
(some confusion on both first name and spelling of surname.
His brother (my 3rd great uncle) was married to a Matilda Spear (spelled that way in the
references I have seen).
I am descended from Arthur CARMICHAEL [Sr.] and Frances BELL. I have established that I
am descended to your Patrick by at least two paths:
(1) Patrick's sister Mary Elizabeth CARMICHAEL is my 4th great grand mother, making
him my 4th great grand
(2) Because of intermarriages between the Thompsons and Carmichaels, Patrick is also my
2nd cousin, 5 times removed. Patrick's paternal grandmother (Arthur's mother
Elizabeth Thompson) was my 6th great grandmother on the Thompson side. [There are a
couple of other paths of relation, but these are the most direct.]
I was a bit confused by your note to Pat Carmichael in 2000, when you stated "I am
related to Patrick Carmichael. He was married to Sarah Ann Speer of GA". My records
show that Patrick Carmichael (b. 25 Mar 1819) was married to Mary Ann Washington Speer
(b.13 Dec 1821), daughter of Joseph Speer and Elizabeth Ann Riggins. Was this Patrick
married twice to two different Speer women. I don' t have a Sarah Ann Speer in my
database so would like to learn more about this. My records also show that Joseph Speer
and Elizabeth Ann Riggins had another daughter, Elizabeth Jane Speer who married Joseph
Thompson Young, [Sr.[ another Carmichael relative on the Thompson side.
Two other Speer/Spear links I have are:
(1). A. T. Spear/Speer married Martha Carmichael (daughter of Arthur Carmichael, Jr, and
niece of the Patrick Carmichael in question).
(2). the marriage certificate of my 2nd great grandfather William Patrick Thompson (son
of Mary A./Malvina SPEER/SPEAR) was witnessed by a ""Starlen SPEAR" -- no
idea if a relative or not.
Anyway, I have all these SPEAR/SPEER individuals in my Carmichael/Thompson database and
have not managed to tie any of them together (except for the two daughters of Joseph
Speer). Can you help me out here?
My daughter Michelle and I have been doing quite a bit of research in this line and would
very much like to share information with you. We have lots of data on the descendants of
Malvina/Mary Speer/Spear and William Houston Thompson as well as having gathered much
information from others on the Thompson / Carmichael ancestry.
Look forward to hearing from you