In keeping with the purpose of this list, the
following constructive feedback is provided.
The subject of a King Carman from ancient history
continues to be repeated in genealogical circles,
despite the fact that the legend/myth holds no
genealogical significance. The issue resurfaced
last May when the following post to a Carman Genealogy
list was posted. The post itself a resend of a
post sent several years earlier to a Prodigy
Genealogy List.
Patricia Tidmarsh, "King Carman on the Persian Gulf," email
message from patricia(a)echonc.com to Carman-Roots-l(a)rootsweb.com
mail list, 19 May 1999.
Link to message:
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/C/CARMAN-ROOTS+
1999+166221470+F
The message was discussed on the Carman Genconnect boards
I posted the following on 27 May 99 to the query board:
"Recently there was a post on Carman-Roots-l discussing
a King Carman and his domain of Carminis. There was
a province in modern day Iran that appeared on the scene
shortly after Alexander the Great defeated the Persian
Empire about 323 AD, called Carmania. This region was
north of the Straits of Hormuz near the present day city
of Badar Abbas. The region of Carmania appears to stay in
place for over 300 years on the Iranian Plateau. My query
is regarding the supposed ruler,King Carman, does anyone
know when he lived and was he one of the lesser Kings
"satrap" under the Parthian Empire??"
Stan Carman replied on the same GenConnect board to my
query with the following:
"Wasn't it the Seleucid Dynasty that controlled Carmania
during that time period?"
And my reply:
"You just hit the nail on the head Stan. I am
trying to figure out the actual time that the
King Carman lived. Carmania western border
was near the known capital of the Persian
Empire, Persepolis and Alexander the Great
burnt that to the ground. The histories
referenced on the Carman-roots post appears
to be Roman. That's about 300 years later.
So when did King Carman live and who were his
children?"
The plain truth of the matter, is that a
Dr. Bryan Palmer wrote this myth down in a brief
family history at the end of the 19th Century.
He was married to a Carman descendant. That
unsubstantiated history has been repeated over the
years and now over a hundred years, later it has
been placed on a web page to be disseminated
yet again.
Link to the new Carman Web Space Web Site, Dr.
Palmer's work has yet again been repeated but
the article is not complete nor is it properly
cited to the author. Even if it were, the piece
holds no concrete evidence towards any of the
Carman descendants in America.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/7636/hsarch11.htm
Linked from the following web site:
http://patricia.rootsweb.com/carman/former.htm
Just because someone, posted an article to a
mail list several years ago, doesn't mean that
it was their information. One should always
try to identify the original source of the material
before publishing it, electronically or in print.