Hi Michael
I have found them in 1881 census......from the LDS 1881 online.......the first child here
was born in 1872!!
St Peters Carmarthen RG11 5398/118 page 30
3 Cwm Cottages
John Williams head marr 27 gen lab born Llanfihangel Carms
Leah Williams wife marr 29 born Penboyr
David son 9 born Conwil Carms
Martha dau 8 born Conwil Carms
John son 6 born Newchurch Carms
Tom son 5 born St Peters Carms
WILLIAM son 1 born St Peters
Elizabeth dau 11 days old born St Peters
so as you can see they had quite a few children......so I would assume a marriage about
1871/2ish.........
John was from Llanfihangel, which Llanfihangel I would presume would be Llanfihangel ar
arth, as Leah was from Penboyr which is not far from Llanfihangel....the first 2 children
being born in Conwil, which is Conwil Elved is south of Penboyra neighbouring
parish.....then as many people from Conwil Elved, moved down to Carmarthen St Peters.
Do you have them on 1911 census to see how many children they did have? It is recorded on
1911 how many children a couple had, and how many died.
Do you have a birth certificate for any of the children which would in turn give
Leah's maiden name, thus enabling you to obtain a marriage certificate for
them.....thus going backwards to find family etc.
let me know what you think
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: MICHAEL WAITE
To: UKGenealogy 4
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Looking for a marriage WILLIAMS
Hi Pauline
Thank you for your interest in my brick wall.
The children I know of are
William b1880
Walter b 1883
Tudor b 1885
Richard b 1890
All on the face of it born St Peter's Carmarthen.
Regards
Mike
Mike Waite
From: UKGenealogy 4 <genuk4(a)melita.com>
To: MICHAEL WAITE <mrwaite(a)btopenworld.com>; carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2012, 10:04
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Looking for a marriage WILLIAMS
Hi Mike
What were the names of the children prior to 1881 census please.......
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "MICHAEL WAITE" <mrwaite(a)btopenworld.com>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:02 PM
Subject: [CMN-L] Looking for a marriage WILLIAMS
Can anyone please help me to find a marriage?
Looking for a marriage of John WILLIAMS to Leah.
John born 1856
Leah born 1855
both birth years based on 1891 census,
Both give birthplace as Carmarthen, St Peter's
in 1891 they are living at Cwmoernant, Carmarthen St Peter's
First child recorded in 1891 census was born in 1880.
I've not been able to find them in 1881 census.
Any suggestions would be very welcome.
Thank you.
Mike Waite
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