Hi Lindsay
Is Lizzie Ann married to a David James........and Mary is living with them a
widow in 1911, or do I have the wrong Mary Jones?
Pauline
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Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Griffith Jones of Llandybie
Hi Pauline,
Yes it took me a while, but I found the family on the 1881 census on
RG11/5392/57/7 (Ancestry has obviously muddled the pages as the original
image has the family on page 4, but they actually come up on Ancestry as
image (page) 7!...I must try and find out how to notify Ancestry about
this as certainly all the pages between 4and 7 are incorrect, and involves
quite a few families!)
Having looked at FreeBMD, I know that Rebecca married Charles Gooding (and
then moved to Bedfordshire) in1893, and Lizzie Ann married in 1894 (both
registered in Llandilofawr). I haven't found Mary or Daniel in 1901.
Thank you so much for looking.
Lindsey
> From: genuk4(a)melita.com
> To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:37:55 +0100
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Griffith Jones of Llandybie
>
> Hi Lindsay
>
> I too have located Mary with the children in 1891 census, she gives her
> states as wife, so Griffith must be around somewhere......but, can you
> see
> her age is showing as 55......On ancestry 1881, I have found Griffith
> Mary
> and family, but when I click to view image it shows the wrong page, did
> you
> find them there, asked for each of the children, and each time took me to
> the wrong page for some reason.
>
> I cannot find them in 1901......will have another look.
>
> Pauline
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Griffith Jones of Llandybie
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Pauline,
> >
> > I know from the family bible that my gt grandfather, David John Jones,
> > was
> > born in Aberdare in 1872, and his parents were Griffith Jones and Ann,
> > formerly Thomas. Their marriage cert. in Aberdare in 1872 states that
> > Griffith was 23 (his father was John Jones), and she was a widow aged
> > 29
> > (her father was Daniel Jones).
> >
> > In the 1881 census Griffith' wife is Mary, aged 29, so neither name nor
> > age ties in for it being Ann. I have recorded on a piece of paper that
> > Griffith married his sister-in-law, Mary Ann Jones in April 1881, but I
> > have no recollection of where I got that information!
> > In 1891, Mary and the children, David, Rebecca and Daniel are still
> > living
> > in Tyn-y-coed Row, Bettws. Mary isn't down as a widow, but I cannot
> > trace
> > Grffith's death before or after 1881. I've tried the 1901 census, but
> > still no sign of him!
> > Family folklore suggests Griffith went to America, but I haven't been
> > able
> > to substantiate this either!
> >
> > Certainly my gt grandfather remained in Bettws, as my grandfather and
> > father were both born and brought up in and around Bettws/Ammanford.
> >
> > Lindsey
> >
> >> From: genuk4(a)melita.com
> >> To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
> >> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:21:08 +0100
> >> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Griffith Jones of Llandybie
> >>
> >> Hi Lindsay
> >>
> >> You say that he married Ann Thomas in 1872, but in 1881 he is married
> >> to
> >> a
> >> Mary......have you tried to locate another Griffith Jones with wife
> >> Ann?
> >> Also have you located him in 1901 if you cannot find him in 1891...
> >>
> >> To your later question, I have not come across people recorded to be
> >> at
> >> work
> >> on the night of the census, have found them as boarders in other
> >> households,
> >> have you tried to find him as a lodger/boarder, can you find his wife
> >> or
> >> family?
> >>
> >> Will see what I can find for you
> >>
> >> Pauline
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Lindsey Guest" <lindseyguest(a)hotmail.com>
> >> To: "Carmarthenshire Mailing List"
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> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:52 PM
> >> Subject: [CMN-L] Griffith Jones of Llandybie
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Firstly...a huge 'thank you' to Pauline for all your help with
David
> >> > Thomas of Llangennech, and family.
> >> >
> >> > I am now looking for another 2x gt grandfather, Griffith Jones.
> >> > Griffith was born on March 10th, 1850 to John Jones and Rebecca (nee
> >> > Thomas), in Landebie.
> >> >
> >> > I have him on the 1851/1861/1871/1881 censuses and then lose him!
> >> > He married Ann Thomas (a widow), 6th July 1872, in Aberdare, and is
> >> > entered on the marriage certificate as a Coal Miner. They had David
> >> > (my
> >> > gt
> >> > grandfather) 30th Sept 1872 in Aberdare.
> >> >
> >> > In 1881 he is married to a Mary , and living in Tyn-y-Coed, Bettws,
> >> > with
> >> > children, David John (aged 9), Lizzie Ann (aged 7) and Rebecca
> >> > (aged 4). I am not sure if Mary is his second wife?
> >> >
> >> > I am then unable to trace him and would welcome any help. I cannot
> >> > find
> >> > a
> >> > death of a Griffith Jones that ties in with his birth year.
> >> >
> >> > Many thanks,
> >> > Lindsey
> >> >
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