Gday Pauline,
I think I am doing a good job of confusing everyone.
The information I have recieved about the the Jones comes from a scribbled
family tree with no dates and was probably written by a child of my Great
Grandmother Marria Williams ( born Llangathen 1843) to a daughter of Maria's
sister Rachel Williams ( born Llanegwad 1849)
This note could of been written any time from late 1880's to early 1900's.
It mentions that John and Ann Jones had 10 children but it only gives
details of Nellie who could quite possibly be an Ellen as one of Nellie's
children was an Ellen.
For the mother Ann Jones it gives an alternative name of Nanny which may be
significant but in what way I do not know.
Apart from Rachel Jones father I knew nothing of this family until this note
came to light so I fear I am not helping a lot here.
With the presumption that the Ann Jones aged 100 who died in 1875 is mine
the census results indicate that she was not always in the Llanegwad area
but I never found her with her husband to be positive that I always had
correct Ann.
I know its very little to go on but I appreciate your efforts.
Regards
Trevor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] The Jones
trevor
I was looking for a Rachel Jones.....not Williams sorry.....
What was Nellie's name, was it Nellie or is that short for something
else....
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor Whitlock" <oztumtum(a)optusnet.com.au>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] The Jones
> Hi Pauline,
> You gave me the burial details for Rachel many moons ago.
>
> Llanegwad parish church burials
> 1849 19th Sept
> Rachel Williams, Tynewydd Cwmfran aged 33 yrs
>
> I dont have a date for the marriage of Nellie Jones to John Johns but i
> think i have found the marriage of their daughter Elizabeth Johns to
> George
> Morris.
>
> This marriage was in the June qtr of 1874 in the Carmarthen district.
>
>
> I know its a tall order but thanks for trying
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Trevor
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] The Jones
>
>
>> HI Trevor
>>
>> I can see a baptism for Rachel Jones in Llanegwad as you state in
>> another
>> email, but cannot see her burial there in the parish church
>> records.....not
>> in 1849 anyway.
>>
>> When did Nellie marry John Johns......cannot see it in our indexes pre
>> 1837.......do you know when and where?
>>
>> Pauline
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Trevor Whitlock" <oztumtum(a)optusnet.com.au>
>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] The Jones
>>
>>
>>> Gday Pauline,
>>> I am afraid there is no date on the family tree that
>>> I
>>> got this information from.
>>>
>>> The only age I can be sure of is that Rachel Jones the sister of
>>> Nellie
>>> Jones who married John Johns was born abt 1816. With 10 children there
>>> could
>>> be I suppose a 15 odd year time frame either way.
>>>
>>> If I have the right Ann Jones who died in 1875 she would of been
>>> between
>>> 41
>>> and 43 when Rachel was born.
>>>
>>> My best guess from that is that Nellie would of been born beween 1791
>>> when
>>> Ann would of been about 18 and 1823 when Ann would of been about 50.
>>>
>>> Not a lot to go on I know but if you dont ask you will never know.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Trevor
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pauline James"
<paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] The Jones
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Trevor
>>>>
>>>> do you have approx years of birth for the children
>>>>
>>>> thanks Pauline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Trevor Whitlock" <oztumtum(a)optusnet.com.au>
>>>> To: "camarthenshire List"
<CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:00 AM
>>>> Subject: [CMN-L] The Jones
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gday Pauline,
>>>>> Some time back we were trying to trace John
>>>>> Jones
>>>>> ( labourer) father of my Rachel Jones born circa 1816 and didn't
have
>>>>> a
>>>>> lot
>>>>> of success.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have now received some more information about his wife that may
>>>>> help
>>>>> work
>>>>> backwards.
>>>>>
>>>>> His wife's name was Ann or Nanny and when she died she was
supposed
>>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>> 102 years old which would be extremely rare for that period.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only Ann Jones I can find on Free BMD is an Ann Jones that died
>>>>> in
>>>>> Llandilofawr in 1875 aged 100.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other information is that John and Ann Jones had 10 children but the
>>>>> only
>>>>> other child mentioned was Nellie that married a John Johns
>>>>>
>>>>> This information comes from a scribbled family tree that was given
to
>>>>> a
>>>>> child of Rachel Williams nee Jones who was born in 1872
>>>>>
>>>>> Further information on this tree is that Nellie and John Johns had
>>>>> the
>>>>> following children
>>>>>
>>>>> Ann, George , and Rachel who were all dead whenever this
>>>>> tree
>>>>> was compiled
>>>>>
>>>>> Elizabeth who married George Morris and had a child
Nellie
>>>>> who
>>>>> became a mrs Jenkins of Neath.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ellen who married a Philip Morgan who had a son F J
>>>>> Morgan.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I looked at the census's for Ann Jones of the right age from
>>>>> 1871
>>>>> back
>>>>> I could find 1 that was a coalminers widow and also a masons widow
>>>>> but
>>>>> nothing I could be positive about..
>>>>>
>>>>> I can send you the scribbled family tree that is a jpg file if you
>>>>> wish
>>>>> but
>>>>> I would like to know if this information might help locate the Jones
>>>>> Family.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for being so long winded.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trevor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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