Dear Stuart.
Sorry for the spelling mistakes. I was trying to type quicker than my
brain could see the keys. I have corrected below .Cheers Trevor.
----- Original Message -----
From: "May Tan/Trevor Gerard" <tangerard(a)bigpond.com.au>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
Hi Stuart,
Thanks for the response ,did Mary marry a relative of her mothers / her
maiden name was Richard or Richards as they used to call themselves when
referring to their family name in census
. Been to London , didnt see the Queen, but did see the gridlocks. Know
what you mean .
Cheers Trevor
----- Original Message -----
From: "stuart owens" <info(a)caveel.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
> Hi Trevor,
>
> Mary Richards (nee Morris) married John Owen on July 27th 1887. In 1891
> Mary and John were in Ferndale with Mary's youngest (so far as I've
> found), John Richards. In 1901 John Richards had upped and left -
> married and living in Treherbert at 4 John Street, I believe - but then
> blind William had moved in with them at their new abode of 38 Brook
> Street. Mary is a conundrum to be sure! Just what happened to her and
> John isn't known. Yet. But I'm working on it.
>
> Oh. My job, when I left London two years ago was Traffic Engineer.
> Gridlocks a speciality.....
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "May Tan/Trevor Gerard" <tangerard(a)bigpond.com.au>
> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
>
>
> Hi Stuart , This Mary Morris you are talking about
> In the 1841 census you say she was in St Mary St and in 51 she was in
> Spurells yard with Blind William .David ,and John , Margaret Morris
> (widow
> of David Morris b 1775) was my ggg grandmother , these are her children
> not
> sure of John, I emailed Pauline with the Birth dates of this family
> because
> thats all I have from research that was passed on to me from a cousin ,
> Could it be that your Mary and mine are the one and the same????
>
> Sydneys great except fot the extreme heat occasionally , the polution all
> the time , the gridlocked traffic all the time ,the late or non arrival
> of
> trains all the time , but used to be brilliant, the lack of reasonable
> carparking, . I am speaking of 64 years of experience. I use to think it
> was
> the best place on earth till I woke up one day and moved to the Gold
> Coast,
> its a bit hotter but its great .
> Talk to you soon I hope .
> Cheers Trevor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stuart owens" <info(a)caveel.com>
> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
>
>
>> Diane,
>>
>> My Mary Morris always maintained (in records, that is) she was from St
>> Peters and born in 1836 + or - a year. She's not a direct relative to
>> me but, in her later years and aged 53, she married my 2g Grandfather.
>>
>> She's in the 1841 census living in St Mary Street, Carmarthen and then
>> Spurrells Yard in the 1851 but then disappears off the planet until 1881
>> when she turns up with blind William, David and John at 25 Cambrian
>> Place. The linkage of the 'Marys' is pretty much certain as blind
>> William is visiting her parents house as a Grandson in the 1871 census
>> of Llanddarog.
>>
>> Australia is a huge country, Diane, and once out of the big bad cities
>> there isn't much but desert scrub and roads. Back in your Mary Ann's
>> day there wouldn't be too much of the latter. Life on a station
>> (usually a cattle/sheep station) even now is tough and solitary - the
>> drizzly, windswept hills and valleys of west Wales is something she'd
>> have missed, I suspect. I'm living in Sydney - a city where it can
>> reach the mid forties during summer and is currently in a period of
>> drought. I'd never thought I'd miss rain!
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Diane Williams" <diane(a)tangles.plus.com>
>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:10 AM
>> Subject: RE: [CmnFHS] morris family
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>> I have befriended quite a few in Australia looking for my
>> gt.gt.grandmother.
>> Still quite a few missing links with her but after finding her death
>> certificate and inquest papers she led a very sad and poor life. I
>> would
>> love to find out why she left Wales leaving her child behind. Ann
>> Morris
>> left Wales between 1862 and 1871... I have a pencil written letter to
>> her
>> mother dated 1875 from Fassifern Station, Queensland. Whereabouts are
>> you?
>> I have friends in Maryborough and Melbourne.
>> Diane
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stuart owens [mailto:info@caveel.com]
>> Sent: 26 February 2006 19:08
>> To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>> Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
>>
>> Many thanks Diane. Monday morning here in Aussie-land and off to work
>> now.
>> I'll have a close look when I get in this evening.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Diane Williams" <diane(a)tangles.plus.com>
>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:42 PM
>> Subject: RE: [CmnFHS] morris family
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>> The family who came to Llanelly in 1840 did have a daughter Mary who I
>> believe stayed behind in Llandyssul she was baptised on the 7th January
>> 1821
>> and the daughter of Samuel and Anna of Dysil Castle, (it's a place) in
>> Fedwen, Llandyssul - Samuel at that time being a shop keeper.
>> I have been unable to find Mary apart from a marriage in September 1843
>> in
>> Cardigan. Hit and miss really, but I could send for it to see if her
>> father
>> was Samuel. The rest of my Morris family are
>> Baptisms
>> William 31.1.1819
>> Mary Ann 7.1.1821
>> Samuel 7.1.1823
>> John 23/3/1823 one of the first white settlers in Brigham
>> City
>> David 6.8.1826
>> Judith 10.12.1826
>> Seth d.o.b. 5.11.1828
>> Ann & Hanna twins 2.3.1833 Ann my gt.gt.grandmother went to Australia
>> Charles 14.1.1838
>> Morris 26.7.1840 Land owner in Pottawattame, America
>> Thomas 26.7.1840
>>
>> I have found out more about John & Morris in America and Ann in
>> Australia
>> than the ones at home
>> Missing from research are William, Mary Ann, Samuel, David, Judith and
>> Thomas.
>>
>> William, Samuel and David I believe came to Llanelly but Mary and Judith
>> stayed in Llandyssul.
>>
>> Samuel and Hannah (parents) kept the Duke in Water Street, Llanelly.
>> Don't know if any of these slot into your tree.
>> Diane
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stuart owens [mailto:info@caveel.com]
>> Sent: 25 February 2006 20:33
>> To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>> Subject: Re: [CmnFHS] morris family
>>
>> Diane,
>>
>> I've more than a passing interest as well. From all the returns (plus
>> her
>> marriage cert) I'm sure my Mary Morris hailed from St Peters. However,
>> she's "on hold". Trevor's grabbed her as a Wife for someone
from
>> Aberdare
>> and my hunt for Mary's son's choice of name for his son (Thomas John)
>> isn't
>> throwing up much. There's a big black hole from just before 1861
>> through to
>>
>> past 1871.
>>
>> I'm going to console myself for a while by checking out a 3xg uncle who
>> was
>> a master mariner from Newport, Pembrokeshire.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Diane Williams" <diane(a)tangles.plus.com>
>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:56 AM
>> Subject: [CmnFHS] morris family
>>
>>
>> Has anyone got family in Llanelly from 1840’s named William Morris,
>> David
>> Morris and Samuel Morris … middle name of them all was Newland
>>
>> Or any family of Morris’ living in Water Street Llanelly from 1840 to
>> 1891.
>>
>> Diane
>>
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