Hi Pauline,
Thank you again for the wonderful find.
Jane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
Hi Jane
Still looks good, glad I could find them for you.....looks like you will
have a good nights sleep.....
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane Doherty" <dohertyj(a)colourcity.com>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
> Hi Pauline,
> Thomas and Elizabeth's first son was John and their daughter Margaret.
> That
> is an additional fact in their favour isn't it.
> I must go and sleep or my class will think I am cranky tomorrow.
> Jane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
>
>
>> Jane
>>
>> Think I may have solved why Thomas is with John and Mary in 1841
>>
>> Baptism Llanybri chapel Llanstephan
>> 1833 3rd April - Thomas Harris, parents John Harris and Margaret
>>
>> I then located their marriage
>>
>> 1830 4th March Llangynog parish church
>> John Harries and Margaret Roberts
>>
>> Llangynog is the parish next to Llanstephan.......looks good to me
>>
>> Pauline
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jane Doherty" <dohertyj(a)colourcity.com>
>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 2:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
>>
>>
>>> Hi Pauline,
>>> It is quite possible that they were non conformist. Salem was a chapel
>>> in
>>> Heolgerrig where they went later. I am finding this with lots of our
>>> Price
>>> family too.
>>> I only know that he went to Merthyr before he met Elizabeth. John was
>>> born
>>> in 1856, he was the oldest son. So I guess he went before 1856.
>>>
>>> Can you please tell me where on the IGI I find these chapel records. I
>>> tend
>>> to get a bit lost there? The other question I have is thet, Do you know
>>> if
>>> there is a plan of graves in the churchyard at Llanstephan please? My
>>> Welsh
>>> cousin was there at Easter. I think sje thought she would walk into the
>>> town
>>> and find him, but I don't think she went through the gravestones. If we
>>> found graves for his parents that might be a reaon fo Thomas Harris to
>>> be
>>> with John Roberts.
>>> Thank you for looking at all this for me.
>>> Jane
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pauline James"
<paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jane
>>>>
>>>> I have them in 1881.......
>>>>
>>>> RG11/1342278
>>>> Merthyr Tydvil
>>>> 6 Cwmglo
>>>> Thomas Harries hd marr 48 coalminer born Llanstephan
>>>> Elizabeth wife 44 born Merthyr
>>>> Vaughan son 18 coalminter b Merthyr
>>>> Sarah dau 14 gen servant
>>>> Jane dau 11
>>>> Elizabeth 9
>>>> Ellen 7
>>>> Maria 4
>>>> William 2
>>>>
>>>> all born Merthyr Tydvil
>>>>
>>>> I have indexed Llanstephan parish church registers and there is not a
>>>> baptism for Thomas Harries......
>>>>
>>>> There are quite a few non-conformist chapels in Llanstephan maybe he
>>>> belonged to one of those....the ones that do have records available
>>>> are
>>>> on
>>>> the IGI
>>>>
>>>> The only Thomas Harries/is I can locate in 1841 is the one I gave
>>>> previously
>>>> with a Roberts family aged 9........what do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Do you know when he went to Glamorgan ?
>>>>
>>>> Pauline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jane Doherty" <dohertyj(a)colourcity.com>
>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Pauline,
>>>>> In 1871 Thomas was in Merthyr Tydfil. He had a wife, Elizabeth, and
8
>>>>> children. Thirteen altogether by 1883. They lived in Cefn Coed y
>>>>> Cymmer
>>>>> at
>>>>> some stage. He went to Merthyr to work in the mine according to the
>>>>> source
>>>>> I had from the Salem Chapel in Heolgerrig.
>>>>> On the 28th January 1886 Thomas Harris was killed while working at
>>>>> Cwn
>>>>> Pit.
>>>>> The Rev. I. J. Evans of Salem Chapel conducted the service.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The burial records my source checked found five Harris buried in the
>>>>> municipal cemetery, but I am not sure which cemetery and the strange
>>>>> thing
>>>>> is that i went over a lot of the Cefn Coed cemetery last year and
>>>>> found
>>>>> my
>>>>> grandmas grave with my grandparents and some of her Harris siblings
>>>>> in
>>>>> it.
>>>>> I
>>>>> just live too far away!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> William Harris buried 2nd November 1877 at 14 years of age
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Harris buried 29th November 1886 at 2 years of age
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Harris buried 29th November 1886 at 54 years of age
>>>>>
>>>>> Gwen Harris buried 4th January 1887 at 3 years of age
>>>>>
>>>>> Elizabeth Harris buried 2nd November 1922 at 85 year of age.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is all I know,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>>
>>>>> Jane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Pauline James"
<paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
>>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 9:13 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jane
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks......where was Thomas in 1871........where did he state he
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> born?
>>>>>> what was his occupation, any little clue can help locate him,
there
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> quite a few around as you have probably found for yourself....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> give me a few more clues
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pauline
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jane Doherty" <dohertyj(a)colourcity.com>
>>>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Pauline,
>>>>>>> Thanks for your reply. It was a typo. It is Thomas I was
after. I
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> mistake there. John is my grandfather.
>>>>>>> I don't have any information on Thomas except for the
1871 census
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Glamorgan. He died in a mine accident in 1886, I have just
found.
>>>>>>> I shall start on certificates for him very soon. I didn't
really
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> to start on him, but I guess it would be sensible to work
>>>>>>> backwards.
>>>>>>> Thank you for your help,
>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Pauline James"
<paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
>>>>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 7:28 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] HARRIS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jane
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice to have you back.......you state that Thomas Harris
born
>>>>>>>> Llanstephan
>>>>>>>> married Elizabeth.....but...you asked for a look up for a
John
>>>>>>>> Harris/ies
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> 1841 or 1851, do you mean Thomas, as I can see from your
email
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> not born until 1856....is it a little typo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had a quick look in 1841 which has been indexed by CFHS
there is
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>> old and 9 year old there.....do you know name of father
from the
>>>>>>>> marriage
>>>>>>>> certificate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the one aged 9 in 1841 is with a John Roberts aged 55
farmer and
>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>> Roberts aged 55 .......he is Thomas Harris aged 9..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pauline
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Jane Doherty"
<dohertyj(a)colourcity.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 8:47 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [CMN-L] HARRIS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> I have subscribed again after many years off this
list and I
>>>>>>>>> wonder
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> someone could help me please as I now have more
information.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a Thomas HARRIS born in Llanstephan in 1833.
He married
>>>>>>>>> Elizabeth,
>>>>>>>>> born in 1837 or 1839 in Merthyr Tydfil and they had
:
>>>>>>>>> 1.John Harris b.1856
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. Margaret Harris b.1858
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3. Mary Harris b.1860
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4. Vaughan Harris b.1862 d. 1st March 1921
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5. William Harris b.1863 buried 2nd November 1877
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 6. Sarah Harris b.1867
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 7. Jane Harris b.1869
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 8. Elizabeth Harris b.1871
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 9. Ellen Harris b1874
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 10 Moriah Harris b.1877
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 11.William Harris b.1879
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 12.Thomas Harris b.1881 buried 29th November 1886
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 13.Gwen Harris b.1883 buried.4th January 1887
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to know what family John Harris had in
Llanstephan
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>> can be found on the 1841 or 1851 census in
Carmarthen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you if you can help me,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Australia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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