Hi Charlotte
if anyone has access to ancestry perhaps they will look for Isabella Ord for
you anywhere in UK.......sorry but I am not a subscriber to it.....
I will see if I can find anything else here
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte R. Hartmeyer-Whalen" <charae6(a)mchsi.com>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Family of Isabella Ord
Hi Pauline,
I don't have the marriage certificate for James and Isabella. I do have
the
death certificate for their son, James Stokell Arrowsmith, Jr., that names
his mother as Isobel Ord. I, too, could not find Isabella in 1851. I
wondered if she was in Yorkshire, England where she met James Arrowsmith,
Sr. and then returned to Wales to be married and then returned to England.
I also have not yet found them in U.S. immigration records.
I will add the Berwick Hamlet info to my files. Thank you so much for
taking the time to help me.
Charlotte
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Family of Isabella Ord
> Hi Charlotte
>
> I have had a look in CFHS census indexes 1841 and 1851 - I found Isabella
> on
> 1841 census living in Berwick hamlet Llanelly parish with the family you
> mention.......but I could not see her in 1851, wonder where she went as
> you
> say she married in Llanelly in 1852....
>
> I can see the marriage of Thomas Ord and Jane in Llanelly 1837.......do
> you
> have the marriage certificate for Isabella to James Stokell Arrowsmith,
> which will name her father and his occupation?
>
> Pauline
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte R. Hartmeyer-Whalen" <charae6(a)mchsi.com>
> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:18 PM
> Subject: [CMN-L] Family of Isabella Ord
>
>
>>I am researching my husband's 2G grandmother, Isabella Ord. She married
>>James Stokell Arrowsmith, Sr. between Apr-Jun 1852 in Llanelly,
>>Carmarthenshire Co., Wales, according to the BMD Index.
>>
>> The 1841 Wales Census has a 12 year old Isabella with Thomas Ord, 35,
>> Engineer and his wife Jane, 35, in the Llanedy Civil Parish, Carnwallon
>> Hundred, Carmarthenshire County, Wales--Registration District Llanelly;
>> Sub-registration district Longhor. With them is also Margaret Evans,
>> 15,
>> F.S.
>>
>> I found Thomas and Jane Ord in the same area in 1851, but no Isabella.
>> I
>> found a marriage of a Thomas Ord and Jane Seymour on 21 Jan 1837 in
>> Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales. In view of Isabella's age, it does not
>> appear that Jane Seymour would be her mother.
>>
>> There is also a George and Jane Ord living nearby in both census
>> years--possibly a brother to Thomas?.
>>
>> My information on James Stokell Arrowsmith, Sr. indicates he was born 9
>> Mar 1803 in Richmond Near Leyburn, Yorkshire, England and died 15 Aug
>> 1855
>> in Chestertown, Kent Co., Maryland USA. We have visited his gravesite,
>> but Isabella is not there with him. They had two sons--William born 30
>> Jun 1853 in Kent Co., Maryland and died 11 months later. He is buried
>> near his father. The other son, James Stokell Arrowsmith, Jr. was born
>> 27
>> Jan 1855 in Kent Co., Maryland and died 12 Nov 1924 in Prince Georges
>> Co.,
>> Maryland.
>>
>> Apparently James and Isabella immigrated to the U.S. after June 1852 and
>> before their first son was born in June 1853.
>>
>> A family story surfaced that indicated Isabella wanted to return to
>> England/Wales after her husband's death in 1855, but did not have the
>> money and the Arrowsmiths would not help her. However, I do not find
>> her
>> in the 1860 U.S. census records, but she might have remarried. I also
>> do
>> not find a 5-year old James Arrowsmith either until 1870 at age 15 with
>> the Bell family (James Sr.'s sister, Margaret married Anthony Bell in
>> Yorkshire).
>>
>> Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated.
>>
>> Charlotte Whalen
>> Frankford, Delaware USA
>> Dyfed Free Genealogy Online
>>
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>>
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