Hi
yes, keep us posted as to your progress
Pauline
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From: "Ann Varma" <annvarma(a)hotmail.com>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Francis of St Clears and Thomas of LLanboidy
Dear Pauline,
Thks for your help, hope to make a trip to CRO when I can get some respite
and see if I can link up some of the possible Francis siblings. There was
a John Francis also a shoemaker who married an Ann James in 1817 , an
Elizabeth Francis who married a William Jones/John in 1820 and died in
1823 (have seen the entry in CMN rootsweb in Mar/2002) , James Francis who
married Mary Jenkins in 1829 , David Francis who married Pheobe James in
1834 and finally Mary Francis who married Jacob Griffith in 1836.
Have plenty to work on , will let you know if I have any success
Thks again
Ann Varma> From: paulinejames(a)carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk> To:
carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:43:17 +0100>
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Francis of St Clears and Thomas of LLanboidy> > Hi
Ann> > Prior to 1837 everyone had to marry in the parish church (except
Quakers) > even if they were chapel people........I have the marriage in
1822 on 21st > November, he was a cordwainer, but states both of St Clears
at the time of > the marriage> > There were no fathers names given prior
to 1837, only names of witnesses and > if they could sign their
names......so there will be no extra > information......we added
cordwainer to the index as that was added to the > marriage entry......> >
The chapels only had to give their information to the relevant record >
offices between the years of 1813-1837 mainly for baptisms, if there is >
information before and after that year you will be very lucky.....we have
> the burials in Bethlehem and if you have St Clears Anthology and they
had a > headstone you would find the family, or if they were of the parish
church > whatever you needed between 1813-1875.....earlier for the
marriages....this > CD is so informative as it also includes two (2)
chapel monumental > photographs, which is a bonus.> > If the information
is not there contact the CRO - I know they charge for the > service, but
if not on the CD check each side of what is > included......1754-1837
marriages, 1813-1875 baptisms and 1813-1875 for the > burials......plus
the 2 chapel monumentals for ALL the gravestones that are > there......> >
let us know how you get on> > regards Pauline> > > > > -----
Original
Message ----- > From: "Ann Varma" <annvarma(a)hotmail.com>> To:
<carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:06 AM>
Subject: [CMN-L] Francis of St Clears and Thomas of LLanboidy> > > >> >
I
have come to a standstill on my family research. My g grandfather > >
Francis Francis born c1801 in St Clears married Mary Thomas of Llanboidy >
> also born c1801 at the Bethlehem Chapel, St Clea!
rs in 1822. Would the > > marriage records of the Bethlehem Chapel give
the name of the fathers of > > both parties? and where would they be held
now? Francis was a cordwainer > > or shoemaker and lived in Quay Row , St
Clears at the time of the 1841 > > census, by 1851 he had moved to Neath.
I would be very grateful if anyone > > could point me in the right
direction, I already have the Carmarthenshire > > FHS CD but that does not
tell me anything that I don't already know.Many > > thks> >
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