Thanks Pauline for your continuing efforts. Michael Edmund doesn't ring an
immediate bell but I will have a look at my Census printouts as he may be a
son of Richard or William. Do you have an age for him? I am definitely
getting a copy of the article in the Cambrian newspaper and let you know
what it contains (hopefully more than just the basic facts!)
Roy
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Children of William Edmund and Margaret Thomas
me again, we have monumental photographs of Adulam, I have looked
there to
see if there is a headstone for them, but there is not.......there are 5
or
6 Edmond/Edmund graves there......was there a Michael Edmund's in your
family tree?
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Davies" <roycymru.davies(a)zen.co.uk>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Children of William Edmund and Margaret Thomas
> Hi Pauline
>
> Thanks very much for your endeavours. Needes and Haystacks do come to
> mind!
>
> The Margaret baptisms are useful for reference in case other unexpected
> lead
> comes up wich might help link one of these to "my" Margaret.
>
> I think "my" William must be buried elsewhere as this William is too
> young.
> I think I have found a reference to mine in the 1833 register of
> electors.
> William Edmund of "K"erberdeg is in the 1833 register of electors for the
> Commott of Carnwallon. The "Nature of his qualification" is "Freehold
> lease". This points to him being older than 18 and a likely candidate for
> the husband of Margaret. I will get a copy of the entry in the Cambrian
> newspaper from Swansea Library to see if it has any more details on his
> death notice "William Edmund of Henberdeg, Lllanelly on 7th June 1834
> from
> the Cambrian Newspaper". For anyone who hasn't used this resource it has
> provided me with some potential leads, as there are several entries over
> the
> years that cover BMD and news items from Llanelly:
>
>
http://www2.swansea.gov.uk/_info/cambrian/?Lang=eng
>
http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=8500
>
>
> Roy
>
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> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Children of William Edmund and Margaret Thomas
>
>
>> Roy
>>
>> I have looked in Pembrey baptisms for a Margaret Thomas c1780 from age
>> in
>> 1851 census......
>>
>> 1779 7 Nov
>> Margaret Thomas dau William on Penhwch
>>
>> 1780 28 July
>> Margaret Thomas dau Thomas
>>
>> 1782 22 Dec
>> Margaret Thomas dau James of Dulas Mill
>>
>> what do you think......needles may come to mind :-))
>>
>> Pauline
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "UK Genealogy" <ukgenealogy(a)onvol.net>
>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Children of William Edmund and Margaret Thomas
>>
>>
>>> HI Roy
>>>
>>> There are only 4 burials of Edmund/Edmond etc in Llanelli parish church
>>> between 1697-1903.......
>>>
>>> Only one William
>>>
>>> Llanelly burials 22nd Dec 1835
>>> William Edmund, Cappel Gate aged 18
>>>
>>> I looked in Pembrey baptisms for an William and there is only this one
>>>
>>> 1797 6 July
>>> William Edmund son of John
>>>
>>> nothing else that matches......a few male Edmunds were having
>>> illigitimate
>>> children.....
>>>
>>> Pauline
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roy Davies" <roycymru.davies(a)zen.co.uk>
>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Children of William Edmund and Margaret Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Pauline.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking. I have Richard and Margaret's marriage and
census
>>>> details. It's frustating, I can't seem to identify Richard's
and
>>>> William's
>>>> parents with any certainity only as a best guess. In 1851 Margaret's
>>>> birth
>>>> place is given as Pembrey so is it worth looking in Pembrey Parish
>>>> records?
>>>> Also in 1841 Herberdege comes under Llanon, another possible
>>>> alternative?
>>>> Unfortunately I don't know if they were non confirmist, that Richard
>>>> and
>>>> Margret were married at St.Eli suggests otherwise?
>>>>
>>>> Their prospective mother Margaret is in the 1841 census at Herberdege
>>>> as
>>>> an
>>>> Edmond age 60, with a John (20), Sarah (15) and Mary (10). By 1851 she
>>>> has
>>>> moved onto Caerbrenin as an Edmunds(and is still there is 1861).
>>>>
>>>> In 1841 William appears as Willm Edmond at Caerbrenin with wife and
>>>> family
>>>> and in 1851 (as an Edmond) at Herberdeg so it looks like he has
>>>> swapped
>>>> with
>>>> his mother as he is at Herberdeg while she is now at Caerbrenin. (he
>>>> is
>>>> there in 1861, 1871, but in 1881 was at Caerbrenin)
>>>>
>>>> The above swapping between Herberdeg and Caerbrenin plus Margaret's
>>>> age
>>>> suggest she is Richrard and Wlliam's parents. I also have a link
>>>> between
>>>> Richard and William Edmund from the the Llanelly Petty sessions (issue
>>>> 113)
>>>> 17th July 1865. Where Richard Edmund of Caerbegin and William Edmund
>>>> of
>>>> Herberdeg were ordered to pay 1 shiling a 3 pence to their mother.
>>>> Unfortunately the extract I have doesn't give the name of the
mother.
>>>>
>>>> The father as William again is a guess as I have a reference to a
>>>> death
>>>> of
>>>> a
>>>> William Edmund of Henberdeg, Lllanelly on 7th June 1834 from the
>>>> Cambrian
>>>> newspaper search index. No idea of age, but seems to fit given I have
>>>> also
>>>> found a marriage of a William Edmund to a Margaret (Thomas) in
>>>> Llanelly
>>>> in
>>>> 1804 (fits with Margaret's age).
>>>>
>>>> Roy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> From: "UK Genealogy" <ukgenealogy(a)onvol.net>
>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Children of William Edmund and Margaret Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> me again Roy......I cannot see William in 1841 census, I presume you
>>>>> have
>>>>> Richard's marriage
>>>>>
>>>>> 1833 27th May Llanelly parish church
>>>>> Richard Edmund and Margaret Griffiths......
>>>>>
>>>>> can also see them in Carbigin glyn hamlet Llanelly in 1841......
>>>>>
>>>>> Pauline
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Roy Davies" <roycymru.davies(a)zen.co.uk>
>>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: [CMN-L] Children of William Edmund and Margaret Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be grateful if anyone with access to Parish Records would
be
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to check for any recordings of Baptisms/Births to the above
parents.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> hopeful they are parents of my gt--gt-gt-grandfather Richard
>>>>>> Edmund(s),
>>>>>> born abt, 1811 Llanelly. William Edmund and Margaret Thomas were
>>>>>> married
>>>>>> 21 May 1804 Llanelly and I think lived at Herberderg/Henberdeg
farm
>>>>>> near
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>> Roads Llanelly. I believe Richard also had a brother called
William.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roy
>>>>>>
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